Bug 160367 - A dialog tab for managing name/alternative label and description is lacking in Calc
Summary: A dialog tab for managing name/alternative label and description is lacking i...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Calc (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
24.8.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: low enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Calc-Images
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Reported: 2024-03-25 22:50 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2024-04-04 06:11 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Attachments
Writer Image Properties Options tab (53.30 KB, image/jpeg)
2024-03-26 11:29 UTC, Telesto
Details
Calc Labeling (414.09 KB, image/gif)
2024-03-26 11:30 UTC, Telesto
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Description Telesto 2024-03-25 22:50:26 UTC
Description:
A dialog tab for managing name/alternative label and description is lacking in Calc 

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Calc
2. Add some image into it..
3. Search for a dialog equivalent to Image Properties Options tab in Writer. You have to object name and the alternative text separately 

Actual Results:
It's hard to manage image properties  image name; image text; image alternative text 

It's currently also bit confusing: is image alternative text in Calc the same as description field in the writer dialog?

Expected Results:
A single dialog which gives access to all?


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: b38974391e8d4bf0d450abfaa86bbccbe1022995
CPU threads: 8; OS: macOS 14.3; UI render: default; VCL: osx
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2024-03-26 09:10:09 UTC
Name and AltText (see bug 155044) dialogs exist, and you probably want to combine them into one dialog likely together with Position & Size. I don't see much need for this. You probably have Writer's image dialog in mind that offers many more attributes.
Comment 2 Telesto 2024-03-26 11:29:04 UTC
Created attachment 193315 [details]
Writer Image Properties Options tab
Comment 3 Telesto 2024-03-26 11:30:48 UTC
Created attachment 193316 [details]
Calc Labeling
Comment 4 Telesto 2024-03-26 11:56:44 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> ...  you probably want to combine them into one dialog likely together with 
> Position & Size. I don't > see much need for this. You probably have Writer's 
> image dialog in mind that > offers many more attributes.

A) Yes, I'm comparing this with Writer (with the idea of consistently/homogeneity)
I'm more familiar with Writer. Doing stuff differently in Calc increases the learning curve.

B) Bit out of my initial scope: there is also the matter of internal consistently inside Writer. A gallery object uses the 'Position and Size dialog' and a image the is handled in the image dialog; both dialogs have different sizes. There is quite some overlap in function. Why can I manage wrap in the dialog for Images, but not for Gallery Objects. In that case I need to use the context menu.. Both are 'images' on the screen.

C) Having different dialogs for naming the object and adding Alt-text is rather clumsy workflow. I have to open two separate dialogs. 

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Some additional context. Why the sudden interest in renaming images.. it's caused by attempt to investigate the issue at bug 160231 (attachment 193145 [details]). I looked through the image names in the navigator. I wanted to find 'missing' images. However it's was no joy to use.

Next step: maybe I should rename a couple of those, making those images more recognizable instead of image278.jpg. Argh this is hard. 

The sample file is also an illustrations how Images are used in Calc.. and indirectly usefulness of proper labeling those images :-) 

In case of Writer you can also rename the image directly from navigator & even access the image properties dialog... Calc can't :-( 

See also bug 160353/ bug 160352 for improvements to make the navigator actually more productive Calc

So Calc lacks features which Writer has, and the do seems sensible to have in Calc too (in the long term).
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2024-04-03 13:32:45 UTC
No harm for UI/UX in merging Text and Alt Text into one dialog. However it effectively means to drop either .uno:RenameObject or .uno:ObjectTitleDescription, which could be a regression for some users.
Comment 6 Michael Weghorn 2024-04-04 06:11:29 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> No harm for UI/UX in merging Text and Alt Text into one dialog. However it
> effectively means to drop either .uno:RenameObject or
> .uno:ObjectTitleDescription, which could be a regression for some users.

What do these commands do? Bring up the different dialogs/dialog tabs? If so, could they just bring up the same dialog (tab) after the merge, so they still work?