Bug 160755 - The Footnote page style is nonsensical and should be removed
Summary: The Footnote page style is nonsensical and should be removed
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium minor
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Blocks: Footnote-Endnote Writer-Styles-Page
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Reported: 2024-04-20 22:47 UTC by Eyal Rozenberg
Modified: 2024-04-22 15:25 UTC (History)
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Example with footnotes exceeding past end of text (97.42 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2024-04-20 22:47 UTC, Eyal Rozenberg
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Description Eyal Rozenberg 2024-04-20 22:47:26 UTC
Created attachment 193778 [details]
Example with footnotes exceeding past end of text

Writer's Styles sidebar has a page style named "Footnote".

A footnote appears at the bottom of a page, with its own page style. If a footnote extends to another page - then it appears underneath later text. And if, finally, the footnotes extend past the last text before a page break or the end of the document - then the last sequence of pages continues, with pages which may have no lines of proper text, but some lines of footnote text. 

This is how LibreOffice behaves; it never creates separate "Footnote" pages, and never - as far as I can tell - uses a "Footnote" page style. See the attached example, where the Default Page Style is green, but the Footnote page style is Red; no pages get a red background.

And you're wondering: "But where do we make settings regarding footnotes, beyond what the Footnote paragraph style offers?" - there is an answer: Each Page Style includes some footnote-related settings, which we edit using the 'Footnote' tab of the Page Style dialog.

So, we should simply remote the Footnote page style. It makes no sense, and seems to be unused.
Comment 1 Cor Nouws 2024-04-21 19:48:03 UTC
looking at this for the first time.
I think that the explanation from Jonaton (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153534#c7) ajlittoz (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153534#c19) David (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153534#c26) and Eyal's replies help to clarify the use cases.

Eya, did you consider that Tools > Footnotes and Endnotes allows to set all sorts of things for Footnotes? Among which a position at the end of the document with use of a page style?
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2024-04-22 08:46:32 UTC
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Comment 3 V Stuart Foote 2024-04-22 12:51:06 UTC
As noted in bug 153534, the Footnote and Endnote both serve useful layout functions in styling documents, and are required.

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Comment 4 Eyal Rozenberg 2024-04-22 15:25:13 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #1)

> Eyal, did you consider that Tools > Footnotes and Endnotes allows to set all
> sorts of things for Footnotes? Among which a position at the end of the
> document with use of a page style?

I have not. I'm surprised one can display footnotes like endnotes and vice-versa, as the whole point of footnotes is being on the same page and endnotes being at the end of the section/document/chapter. Still, it is what it is.