The Format menu lets you open the following dialogs whose settings can be expressed as a style: * Character... * Paragraph... * Bullets and Numbering... * Page Style... One of these does not fit the naming scheme of the rest. Which is it? Indeed, it is "Page Style..." . One does not Format the page style, one formats the page; just like one does not format the paragraph style, one formats the paragraph. And - direct-formatting doesn't affect named style. So, I believe we should just have "Format | Page..." - simple, consistent, obvious.
Apparently, this is a regression, since sometime in 4.x the format menu still had it right: https://officeskills.org/apache-open-office-4-1-1-review/ and specifically: https://officeskills.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/writer-format-menu.jpg
I believe "Page Style" was introduced in 6.4. See Bug 126608 (Writer: Looks as if switch Page to Portrait is impossible - Cause: "Format > Page" is not clear because it starts formatting the page Style).
Created attachment 194121 [details] In version: 5.0.0.5, 6.3.6.2 and 6.4.0.1
(In reply to nutka from comment #3) > Created attachment 194121 [details] > In version: 5.0.0.5, 6.3.6.2 and 6.4.0.1 Thanks, changed the minimum version. (In reply to nutka from comment #2) > See Bug 126608 (Writer: Looks as if switch Page to Portrait is impossible - > Cause: "Format > Page" is not clear because it starts formatting the page > Style). Aw, man, I can't believe I've not noticed the behavior discussed there so far! This is so mental! Salient comment from that bug: (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #46) > I think, one problem is, that the items 'Character', 'Paragraph' and 'Bullet > and Numbering…' in that section of the Format menu perform a direct > formatting which has no effect on other parts or the document. But the item > 'Page…' there, does not perform a direct formatting at all and has often a > document-wide effect. > > I suggest to rename 'Page…' to 'Edit Page Style' and move it out of the > Character-Paragraph section. Perhaps put it after 'Watermark', that has > already 'Columns', which alters the page style too. The naming is appropriate given the behavior. The behavior is the problem.
-1 This would be a reversal of what was done for see also bug 126008 [1] where we renamed the Format -> "Page..." to Format -> "Page Style..." for adjusting the style of page holding current paragraph--also repositioned it on the menu removing it from the other DF dialogs. IMHO no reason to revert, or UX confusion of bug 126008 returns. Though work remains needed on bug 41316 =-ref-= [1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/77148
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5) > -1 I closed this as NOTABUG... no need for the -1 now. Anyway, please have a look at bug 161078.
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0) > * Character... > * Paragraph... > * Bullets and Numbering... > * Page Style... > > One of these does not fit the naming scheme of the rest. Which is it? You should have looked to what the menu entries do and noticed a difference in the dialogs titles...
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #7) > You should have looked to what the menu entries do and noticed a difference > in the dialogs titles... Ah, but I shouldn't have to. It's the Format menu. You format pages (or page sequences), you don't format styles - or at least, you don't expect to.