Bug 38850 - UI: Bullets and Numbering toolbar disappears. Allow make it persistent
Summary: UI: Bullets and Numbering toolbar disappears. Allow make it persistent
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
: 59176 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: Toolbars
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Reported: 2011-06-30 12:15 UTC by wpiis
Modified: 2021-10-12 11:15 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description wpiis 2011-06-30 12:15:21 UTC
The Bullets and Numbering toolbar disappears when not being used.
When I check View> Toolbars> Bullets and Numbering, the toolbar becomes visible.
I dock the Bullets and Numbering toolbar.
If I backspace on a line, deleting the Bullet/Number, the toolbar disappears which requires that I recheck the toolbar to make it visible again.

If I check view the toolbar (to make it visible) then the toolbar should remain visible until I uncheck it.
Thanks, Tracey
Comment 1 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 12:25:25 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:00:56 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 3 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:02:02 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:06:43 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 5 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:08:45 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 sasha.libreoffice 2012-09-24 05:58:32 UTC
It looks like RFE bugreport. Reopening.
Comment 7 dhirenjani 2012-12-16 12:37:54 UTC
I can confirm this bug in LO 4.0beta1 on platform windows vista

Same behaviour is also seen for tables toolbar (it disappears when focus moves out from the table in any document)
Comment 8 Simo Kaupinmäki 2014-07-22 16:43:46 UTC
This issue is related to bug 34451 and apparently inherited from OOo.
Comment 9 Norbert X 2014-10-04 11:46:34 UTC
I can confirm this bug in 4.3.2.
I'll copy my comment from https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81475#c23 here:

I think that dynamic appearance/disappearance of toolbars is not a good idea.

For me it is comfortable to place toolbars once and use them when I want to use them, not contextually (current object- or action- dependent).
But now in 4.3.2 toolbars disappear even if they have Lock Toolbar Position option checked. Please enable static toolbar positions. 

Popping toolbars may cause attention switch and may lower document author's productivity. Otherwise you will create another stupid, ugly, non-usable Ribbon/MFI. I think that many LibreOffice users would be happy with MS Office 2003-like interface.

Users do not need bells and whistles, they need comfortable and customizable interface. This interface should allow users to place and pin (lock) toolbars as they want and use keyboard shortcuts for more productivity (for example, the fastest way to add Cross-Reference is to press <Alt-i><e>).
Comment 10 Norbert X 2014-10-04 11:50:15 UTC
*** Bug 59176 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Timi Agama 2021-10-12 11:15:17 UTC
This bug still exists as recently as LibreOffice on Windows 10 x64.

And I'd argue that, from a user perspective, this is NOT the same bug as Bug 59176.

To recap (similar to original bug report):

1. Create a bulleted list
2. View -> Toolbars -> Bullets and Numbering
3. Move the cursor out of the list
4. Toolbar suddenly disappears

Basically, the toolbar only remains visible when you are within a list. As soon as you exit the list the toolbar disappears.

This is NOT the behaviour in LibreOffice Impress where the Bullets and Numbering toolbar automatically shows up when you are editing a bulleted list.

1. For uniformity across LibreOffice I'd suggest that the Impress behaviour should be implemented in Writer.
2. In addition, when the user selects the toolbar from the menu then it should never disappear - under any circumstances.