Bug 49576 - MAC AT accessibility problems failing Apple checking
Summary: MAC AT accessibility problems failing Apple checking
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LibreOffice (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.5.2 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Mac OS X (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL:
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Depends on: 46107
Blocks: a11y-macOS
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Reported: 2012-05-07 03:30 UTC by Alex Thurgood
Modified: 2021-09-24 15:15 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

See Also:
Crash report or crash signature:


Attachments
output with default Base document (30.01 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:30 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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output with Base wizard page 1 (23.49 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:31 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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output Base wizard page 2 (22.77 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:32 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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ouput Base wizard page 3 and save dialog (87.37 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:32 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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output default Calc document (248.57 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:33 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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output default Draw document (54.92 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:33 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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output default Impress document (89.89 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:34 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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output default Math document (27.11 KB, text/plain)
2012-05-07 03:34 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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StarCenter AT verifier (19.14 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:08 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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Writer AT verifier (25.72 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:08 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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Calc AT verifier (58.35 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:09 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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Draw AT verifier (28.59 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:09 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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Impress AT verifier (38.08 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:10 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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DBWizard Step1 AT verifier (15.42 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:10 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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DBWizard Step 2 Verifier (15.26 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:11 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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DBWizardSaveAsDialog AT verifier (89.26 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:11 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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DBMainWindowTables AT verifier (25.02 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:12 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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Formula AT verifier (22.42 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:13 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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FromTemplate AT verifier (23.91 KB, application/pdf)
2015-04-24 14:14 UTC, Alex Thurgood
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Description Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:30:43 UTC
Created attachment 61124 [details]
output with default Base document

Currently, LibreOffice has incomplete support for accesibility tools like screenreaders, and even the default VoiceOver provided by Apple.

This also causes instability problems leading to frequent crashing on some systems, e.g :

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47368
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42014
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48329
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33359


I ran Apple's provided developer tool, Accessibility Checker over the default launches of the various modules of LO with 3.5.2 and am enclosing the output here as text files which shows quite a large number of errors/warnings.


Alex
Comment 1 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:31:29 UTC
Created attachment 61125 [details]
output with Base wizard page 1
Comment 2 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:32:12 UTC
Created attachment 61126 [details]
output Base wizard page 2
Comment 3 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:32:51 UTC
Created attachment 61127 [details]
ouput Base wizard page 3 and save dialog
Comment 4 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:33:28 UTC
Created attachment 61128 [details]
output default Calc document
Comment 5 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:33:56 UTC
Created attachment 61129 [details]
output default Draw document
Comment 6 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:34:26 UTC
Created attachment 61131 [details]
output default Impress document
Comment 7 Alex Thurgood 2012-05-07 03:34:57 UTC
Created attachment 61132 [details]
output default Math document
Comment 8 Roman Eisele 2012-08-25 10:54:10 UTC
Added bug 46107 - "UI: Voiceover not announcing cell content or position"
Comment 9 retired 2013-07-28 21:36:54 UTC
46107 was fixed. Might this be fixed as well?
Comment 10 Boris Dušek 2013-07-30 20:38:33 UTC
Fixing of 46107 IMHO does not at all influence any of the problems reported in the Accessibility Verifier output, since Accessibility Verifier does not test accessibility notifications (which is the only thing fixing 46107 changed).
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2015-04-01 14:42:00 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:08:08 UTC
Created attachment 115053 [details]
StarCenter AT verifier
Comment 13 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:08:34 UTC
Created attachment 115054 [details]
Writer AT verifier
Comment 14 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:09:02 UTC
Created attachment 115055 [details]
Calc AT verifier
Comment 15 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:09:34 UTC
Created attachment 115056 [details]
Draw AT verifier
Comment 16 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:10:06 UTC
Created attachment 115057 [details]
Impress AT verifier
Comment 17 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:10:35 UTC
Created attachment 115058 [details]
DBWizard Step1 AT verifier
Comment 18 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:11:07 UTC
Created attachment 115059 [details]
DBWizard Step 2 Verifier
Comment 19 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:11:48 UTC
Created attachment 115060 [details]
DBWizardSaveAsDialog AT verifier
Comment 20 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:12:38 UTC
Created attachment 115061 [details]
DBMainWindowTables AT verifier
Comment 21 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:13:58 UTC
Created attachment 115062 [details]
Formula AT verifier
Comment 22 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:14:25 UTC
Created attachment 115063 [details]
FromTemplate AT verifier
Comment 23 Alex Thurgood 2015-04-24 14:15:34 UTC
Just retested against daily build 

Version: 5.0.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: da36fc8c9564199b8c2f8f28c2e4d04d9862a2d4
TinderBox: MacOSX-10.10@61, Branch:master, Time: 2015-04-21_21:09:35
Locale: fr_

have attached the outputs as PDF documents.
Comment 24 V Stuart Foote 2015-04-24 14:17:06 UTC
a little QA housekeeping

Alex, thanks for posting the AT verifier results.
Comment 25 QA Administrators 2016-11-08 10:38:24 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 26 Alex Thurgood 2017-10-09 16:44:03 UTC
Re-did tests on master and OSX 10.13 High Sierra - results in separate bug reports (see also)
Comment 27 QA Administrators 2019-01-23 03:48:14 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 28 QA Administrators 2021-01-23 04:03:57 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 29 Alex Thurgood 2021-09-24 15:15:54 UTC
The Apple provided Accessibility Inspector with XCode 13.0 appears to be broken and won't pick up any interactions from the LO UI even when it is attached to the LO process.