Bug 53146 - Proper Function Capitalizes Letters After Apostrophe
Summary: Proper Function Capitalizes Letters After Apostrophe
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Calc (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.5.5.3 release
Hardware: Other All
: low minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Whiteboard: BSA
Keywords:
: 53215 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: Calc-Function
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Reported: 2012-08-05 20:24 UTC by Nigel Thorpe
Modified: 2024-10-15 08:24 UTC (History)
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Description Nigel Thorpe 2012-08-05 20:24:10 UTC
Problem description: Use of the 'Proper' function causes capitalisation of the letter following an apostrophe. E.g. 'don't' becomes 'Don'T' etc etc which is, of course, incorrect.

Steps to reproduce:
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Current behavior:

Expected behavior:

Platform (if different from the browser): 
              
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1
Comment 1 Urmas 2012-08-05 23:34:40 UTC
Cannot reproduce with both ' and ’ (U+2019).
Comment 2 Markus Mohrhard 2012-08-11 18:35:57 UTC
*** Bug 53215 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Joel Madero 2012-10-03 15:22:55 UTC
I was able to confirm. Marking as NEW, prioritizing relatively high because it looks bad for LibO and could affect a lot of users.

LibO Version: 3.6.1.2 (Build ID: e29a214)
US localization (not sure if imortant)

Also confirmed that another user from the mailing list is experiencing this problem.
Comment 4 Joel Madero 2012-10-03 15:47:07 UTC
Also confirmed that this is a problem with MS Excel, so the patch may need to also take into account what happens when we import
Comment 5 Markus Mohrhard 2012-10-03 15:51:00 UTC
ATM I would not solve this bug report. Gnumeric and Excel behave the same way and OpenFromula contains a comment that this is underspecified.

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16826/openformula-spec-20060221.html#PROPER

We should wait here and have a look at the result of the OpenFormula specification changes.
Comment 6 Mat M 2012-10-03 21:04:14 UTC
I think it depends of the locale, the language and the density of occurences. In french, the sentence "ce n'est pas l'heure" will be "Ce N'Est Pas L'Heure", which is correct and expected.
And if you consider people names like "jean d'ormesson", the behaviour is correct.

I think the occurence of a name having an apostrophe before one letter is rare, although in english music titles, there could be more.

I think there was a trade-off here that this function will more target people names rather than music titles :)

HTH
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2015-01-05 17:52:40 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 QA Administrators 2016-01-17 20:05:42 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 Justin L 2017-02-03 08:39:44 UTC
For the benefit of people like me who skip by most of the header information: this is a calc bug, referring to a cell formula something like

=PROPER("don't")

Since Excel (tested 2010 English) also responds with "Don'T", I'm reducing the priority to low, and actually probably should be considered NOTABUG.
Comment 10 QA Administrators 2018-07-25 02:39:14 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2020-07-25 04:00:13 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 QA Administrators 2022-07-26 03:29:14 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 QA Administrators 2024-07-26 03:16:26 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 14 Mike Kaganski 2024-10-15 08:24:45 UTC
Is it suggested, that PROPER("o'brien") must not capitalize "B"?