Thank you for your bug report!

However, we need to know which User Interface language you use (English?).
And this is on Windows, right?

Thank you for your answers!

Yes, sorry, I use UK English. I have just retested, and the bug reproduces in Windows 7 Home. Ctrl + H works fine though.

 

I haven't tried it on Linux, but I can next time I'm in it.

 

 

 

From: bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org [mailto:bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org] 
Sent: 29 September 2012 09:36
To: 551taylor.john@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

 

 <mailto:bugs@eikota.de> Roman Eisele changed bug 53541 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53541>  


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Summary

Keyboard shortcut inop. 

UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog 


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Comment # 1 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53541#c1>  on bug 53541 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53541>  from  <mailto:bugs@eikota.de> Roman Eisele 

Thank you for your bug report!
 
However, we need to know which User Interface language you use (English?).
And this is on Windows, right?
 
Thank you for your answers!
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Now about the bug:

I have checked this in LibreOffice 3.5/3.6 with UK English UI, both on Windows XP and on Mac OS X; however, I can not reproduce the problem: as expected, Ctrl+F opens the “Find” palette window, while Ctrl+H opens the traditional “Find and Replace” dialog window. This difference between “Find” palette window and “Find and Replace” dialog window is a new behaviour which was introduced in LibreOffice 3.5.

So please check the following:

1) Is it possible that the shortcut works correctly, but that you just have missed the “Find” palette window? Maybe it has been dragged to the margin of the screen?

2) If you can’t spot the “Find” palette window at all, it is possible that some local setting was corrupted. To test this, please try resetting (temporarily) your LibreOffice user profile. How to do this? Please see
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_Profile#Resetting_the_user_profile
together with the explanation about where the user profile is located on the same page.

Please check if the problem is now solved, i.e. if the “Find” palette window now appears when you press Ctrl+F, or if it still does not work at all. And please state your results in an additional comment on the present bug report.

Thank you very much in advance!

I think I have identified my problem. In MS Office, the Find and the Find+Replace dialogs are almost identical, and always appear in the center of the screen, whereas in Libre the find box appears as a small box on the bottom tool bar while the F+R is a big dialog box in the center of the screen.

I think it would be more intuitive, and help migrating MS Office users a bit, if the boxes were identical, and both appeared in the center of the workspace.

Thanks for your help,

John

Thank you very much for your answer!

I completely understand your explanation. Yes, it is easy to miss the little “Find” palette window, and I agree this behaviour is not what a user who migrated from MS Office (or switches between both applications) would expect.

Actually, in LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4 we had mostly the same behaviour as in MS Office; the new differentiation between “Find” palette window and “Find and Replace” dialog window was introduced in LibreOffice 3.5. The model for the new “Find” palette window is not MS Office, but the “Find” palette window in Mozilla Firefox and some other applications. Actually some users demanded such a little “Find” palette/toolbar widged. The advantage of the “Find” palette window is that it always can stay visible, integrated into some toolbar or floating freely, just as the user likes it, and therefore it is intentionally unobstrusive.

So IMHO we have a little conflict of interests here: on the one hand, similarity to MS Office makes migration and interchange easier, and so some users would prefer the old behaviour (e.g. you, and maybe me, too); on the other hand, other users prefer the little unobstrusive “Find” palette which can always stay visible to allow fast searching. We can not get both advantages at once, and therefore to me the current solution: having two different windows, one with Ctrl+F and one with Ctrl+H, seems a reasonable compromise.

But I don’t want to persuade you; I just wanted to explain why we have this little difference from MS Office ;-)

Thanks for your comprehensive explanation, Roman.

I can sympathize with both sides of the argument, and I do agree that simply typing [Ctrl+F] + <word> is easier and quicker, and doesn't even need you to look at the search box. :-)