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Bug 56498 - Add Layer manager window / Enhance the Navigator
Summary: Add Layer manager window / Enhance the Navigator
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Draw (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Hardware: Other All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Depends on:
Blocks: Layers Navigator
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Reported: 2012-10-28 15:39 UTC by Jan Kirchner
Modified: 2020-01-20 15:03 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Mockup (418.59 KB, image/png)
2016-11-08 02:23 UTC, Bastián Díaz

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Description Jan Kirchner 2012-10-28 15:39:07 UTC
To improve handling the layers it is necessary to add a new window similar to Navigator (F5) which will show (and let to change) all layers, their status, order, visibility, (opacity) etc... Similar functions as in Gimp for example.
Comment 1 Regina Henschel 2013-11-01 13:39:10 UTC
This is a valid request. Currently only the property 'visible' has an easy, one click access.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2016-05-04 08:54:37 UTC
I'd rather integrate layer management into the navigator.
Comment 3 Bastián Díaz 2016-11-07 03:31:41 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> I'd rather integrate layer management into the navigator.

The integration of a layer control for the navigator is an excellent idea (Bug 90244), but in addition, a replacement for the control layers through tabs currently have in LO Draw is necessary. 

An alternative method that can be used by switching the page pane with a very similar ui to other drawing applications like GIMP, Inkscape, Photoshop, Corel Draw, etc. 

There are many reasons to be, as the familiarity of users having a "typical" layer control, a simpler option than that obtained with the navigator (typical power users), etc. 

I'll make a small mockup to show this idea.
Comment 4 Bastián Díaz 2016-11-08 02:23:50 UTC
Created attachment 128558 [details]

A simple mockup of how the alternative layer manager might work, in addition to other interesting elements to consider.

Based on my experience as a user, the navigator is only used by power users and in complex documents. A simple alternative, always visible and similar to that available in other drawing applications is important.

In the mockup:

• Layer tabs disappear and could give way to a default color bar
• it's used the page pane to toggle between page view and layer view
• Layer view has an interface similar to other drawing applications and only shows the layers of the current page
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2016-11-15 14:58:59 UTC
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #4)
> Created attachment 128558 [details]

Excellent proposal, almost the same as in

The problem with layers is that ODF defines it differently from what other tools understand. The concept is orthogonal to groups, which quickly ends up in a mess for non-experts.

The Navigator is not used today because it has some flaws. I would fix those rather then introduce new UIs. But in the end we will have the same interaction, I guess.
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2020-01-20 12:17:46 UTC
No need for further input from UX. Please revamp the Navigator, see also bug 90244.