Bug 56498 - Add Layer manager window / Enhance the Navigator
Summary: Add Layer manager window / Enhance the Navigator
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Draw (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
: 139330 154338 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: Layers Navigator
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Reported: 2012-10-28 15:39 UTC by Jan Kirchner
Modified: 2024-03-08 05:15 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Mockup (418.59 KB, image/png)
2016-11-08 02:23 UTC, Bastián Díaz

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Description Jan Kirchner 2012-10-28 15:39:07 UTC
To improve handling the layers it is necessary to add a new window similar to Navigator (F5) which will show (and let to change) all layers, their status, order, visibility, (opacity) etc... Similar functions as in Gimp for example.
Comment 1 Regina Henschel 2013-11-01 13:39:10 UTC
This is a valid request. Currently only the property 'visible' has an easy, one click access.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2016-05-04 08:54:37 UTC
I'd rather integrate layer management into the navigator.
Comment 3 Bastián Díaz 2016-11-07 03:31:41 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> I'd rather integrate layer management into the navigator.

The integration of a layer control for the navigator is an excellent idea (Bug 90244), but in addition, a replacement for the control layers through tabs currently have in LO Draw is necessary. 

An alternative method that can be used by switching the page pane with a very similar ui to other drawing applications like GIMP, Inkscape, Photoshop, Corel Draw, etc. 

There are many reasons to be, as the familiarity of users having a "typical" layer control, a simpler option than that obtained with the navigator (typical power users), etc. 

I'll make a small mockup to show this idea.
Comment 4 Bastián Díaz 2016-11-08 02:23:50 UTC
Created attachment 128558 [details]

A simple mockup of how the alternative layer manager might work, in addition to other interesting elements to consider.

Based on my experience as a user, the navigator is only used by power users and in complex documents. A simple alternative, always visible and similar to that available in other drawing applications is important.

In the mockup:

• Layer tabs disappear and could give way to a default color bar
• it's used the page pane to toggle between page view and layer view
• Layer view has an interface similar to other drawing applications and only shows the layers of the current page
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2016-11-15 14:58:59 UTC
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #4)
> Created attachment 128558 [details]

Excellent proposal, almost the same as in https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/07/31/how-the-navigator-may-support-object-handling-in-libreoffice-draw/

The problem with layers is that ODF defines it differently from what other tools understand. The concept is orthogonal to groups, which quickly ends up in a mess for non-experts.

The Navigator is not used today because it has some flaws. I would fix those rather then introduce new UIs. But in the end we will have the same interaction, I guess.
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2020-01-20 12:17:46 UTC
No need for further input from UX. Please revamp the Navigator, see also bug 90244.
Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2021-01-12 17:59:03 UTC
*** Bug 139330 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-03-23 11:50:46 UTC
*** Bug 154338 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***