Bug 58318 - FORMATTING: Displaying of Tab Positions is Wrong within Text Documents with 2 (or more) Columns in MS Word Format
Summary: FORMATTING: Displaying of Tab Positions is Wrong within Text Documents with 2...
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Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: Other All
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Assignee: Not Assigned
Whiteboard: BSA
Keywords: filter:doc
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Blocks: DOC
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Reported: 2012-12-14 22:37 UTC by Harald Koester
Modified: 2017-12-19 12:03 UTC (History)
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Description Harald Koester 2012-12-14 22:37:35 UTC
Steps to reproduce:

(1) Open new text document. 

(2) Define left tab position somewhere in the right half of the working area.

(3) Format page with 2 columns. The tab position is still displayed in the ruler in the right half !!! It seems that this tab position belongs to the right column, but it does not. Expected: No display of tab position. But this is not the important thing.

(4) Insert a word (left column).

(5) Insert a manual column break. Cursor jumps to the beginning of the right column. The tab is no longer displayed, so far so good. (By the way: The column break is now only displayed with a blue line, the string „Manual Column Break“ is not displayed yet. But this is even less unimportant.)

(6) Insert a word at the beginning of the right column.

(7) Define a tab position in the right column. Then display tabs (Format > Paragraph > Tabs). 2 tab positions are defined, one inside the column margins, one outside (not displayed).

(8) Save document as MS Word document (.doc) and close document.

(9) Open document again. The cursor is in left column. One tab of left column is displayed at the right side. This is equal to step (3).

(10) Set cursor in right column after the word. Two tabs positions are displayed, one on the right, one on the left side of the page.

(11) Insert a tab. The cursor jumps to a new position, but this is not the position of the displayed tab position !!!!  If you now look to the columns, to the tab positions and to the cursor position, you can recognize, that the distance between the left margin of the left column and the tab position at the left column is equal to the distance between the left margin of the right column and the cursor position. That means, that the calculation for the display of the tab positions is wrong. It has been forgotten to consider an offset for the width of a column.

Operating System: Windows 7
Comment 1 Jorendc 2012-12-16 13:29:33 UTC
Thanks for submitting this bug!

I can reproduce this bug.

(5) The string 'Manual Column Break' isn't displayed when you add it. But when I do step (7) and close the Paragraph Format window, The text is now displayed correctly (I have Dutch helppack installed).

Mac OS X 10.8.2
LO and LO Version (Build-id: 87906242e87d3ddb2ba9827818f2d1416d80cc7)
TinderBox: MacOSX TDF Release, Branch:libreoffice-4-0, Time: 2012-12-05_22:13:37
Both with Dutch helppack
Comment 2 danielcalegari 2014-08-20 18:06:46 UTC
I tryed with a new document and it works well, no problem, but after saving as DOC, then the BUG occurs!

I'm using LibreOffice Writer at Windows 7.
Comment 3 QA Administrators 2015-09-04 02:48:35 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 Harald Koester 2015-09-11 09:04:49 UTC
Bug still exists in version 5.0.1 with Win7.
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2016-09-20 10:29:38 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Harald Koester 2016-10-08 17:32:53 UTC
Tested again with versions 5.0.1 and 5.2.2 with original test procedure:


Step (3): Against my original statement the display of the tab in the right half is correct, because the numbering of the ruler in the right half also refers to the left column. What's irritating is the 'white' ruler background of the right column. It seems that this part of the ruler refers to the right column. I think that only the ruler background of the column where the cursor is positioned should be white. The background(s) of the other column(s) should be greyed like the backgrounds beyond the page margins. Perhaps also a lighter grey may be suitable.


Step (5): With version 5.0.1 a blue line above the right column is displayed, with 5.2.2 the line is not displayed. It's only displayed if Non-printing Characters are displayed. To my opinion the version 5.2.2 is correct now. Not correct is, that the term "Manual Column Break" is not displayed above the blue line. You have to scroll the page down and up again, then the term is displayed.


Step (10): In version 5.0.1 two tabs are displayed, in 5.2.2 only one is displayed. I think the version 5.2.2 is correct now.

Step (11): Contrary to version 5.0.1 with version 5.2.2 the cursor now jumps to the correct tab position. 

Conclusion: Main problem is solved in version 5.2.2. Two minor problems still exist (step 3 and 5).
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2017-12-11 08:54:02 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Harald Koester 2017-12-19 12:03:13 UTC
Regarding the two minor problems mentioned in comment 6 I wrote 2 new bug reports:
Bug 114541, bug 114553.

Hence the main problem is is no longer present (see also comment 6), this bug can be set to WORKSFORME.