Bug 58911 - EDITING: Wizard for legacy Reports unreachable when Report-Builder is installed
Summary: EDITING: Wizard for legacy Reports unreachable when Report-Builder is installed
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Base (show other bugs)
Version:
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3.3.0 release
Hardware: Other All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Database-Reports-Builder
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Reported: 2012-12-31 18:36 UTC by Robert Großkopf
Modified: 2017-06-24 22:20 UTC (History)
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Description Robert Großkopf 2012-12-31 18:36:52 UTC
Reports in Base are created directly or by a wizard. Both menu-entries start the Report-Builder. Only when I uninstall the Report-Builder the old wizard from OOo appears and I am able to create old reports.
Many people have used this wizard before to get reports, which show the content in a table-form. Why couldn't we get a menu-entry for this old wizard beside the entries of the Report-Builder?
Comment 1 retired 2013-07-03 12:32:56 UTC
Robert, is this bug still valid when using a newer version of LO?

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
Comment 2 Lionel Elie Mamane 2013-07-03 12:36:35 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Robert, is this bug still valid when using a newer version of LO?

Yes.
Comment 3 frofa 2014-02-11 01:20:49 UTC
I need to use the old (legacy) report designer/wizard which allows TABLES in reports, and multi-column layouts (i.e. same field-set repeated across the page) - the newer Report Builder does not have these functionalities. But I now cannot access this tool at all (in recent versions of LO). It it possible? (I used to be able to just disable the Report Builder and the legacy report designer/wizard would just 'appear'.) Please bring the old report designer back!
Comment 4 Lionel Elie Mamane 2014-02-11 03:13:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> I need to use the old (legacy) report designer/wizard (...) It it
> possible?

Don't install (or uninstall) the Report Builder, and you'll have legacy report designer.
Comment 5 frofa 2014-02-11 05:34:48 UTC
Lionel:

I don't quite understand your advice. I'm using LO v 4.2.0.4 and when I call-up the EXTENSION MANAGER list, there is no Report Builder (the newer one) on the list, yet selecting either 'Create Report in Design View' or 'Use Wizard to Create Report' still calls-up the newer Report Builder and NOT the legacy report designer. (The 'Type of Extension' boxes are all ticked). Maybe I'm missing something.
Comment 6 Robert Großkopf 2014-02-11 06:50:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> I don't quite understand your advice. I'm using LO v 4.2.0.4 and when I
> call-up the EXTENSION MANAGER list, there is no Report Builder (the newer
> one) on the list

It isn't shown any more in the extension list. You have to uninstall it whit the LO-setup.
Don't know, how it works in other systems. Here, with *.rpm-packages, the report-builder is a package, which could be installed and uninstalled separately.
Comment 7 frofa 2014-02-11 08:09:09 UTC
robert:

"You have to uninstall it whit the LO-setup."

I'm not sure how to do this. (I'm using Mac OS 10.6.8). I don't have much technical expertise. By the way, what is 'LO-setup'? A little more guidance would be much appreciated! Are there any links on tutorials for how to do it?
Comment 8 Lionel Elie Mamane 2014-02-11 08:32:02 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)

> "You have to uninstall it whit the LO-setup."

> I'm not sure how to do this. (I'm using Mac OS 10.6.8).

The people on this bug have even less MacOS X "expertise" than you. I suggest you ask a MacOS X guru / expert / ... What you want to achieve is a partial install; LibreOffice is made of some required components and some optional components. Report Builder is such an optional component. During the install procedure (at least on GNU/Linux and on Microsoft Windows), one gets the choice of which optional components one wants to install and which ones not. Where exactly that choice is on MacOS X, you need to ask a MacOS X guy.

For user support questions such as these, you can try
 - http://ask.libreoffice.org
 - a user mailing list https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
   or through Nabble
   https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
 - IRC https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/irc-help/
 - and/or a MacOS X user forum alternatively to a LibreOffice forum
Comment 9 frofa 2014-02-11 08:46:23 UTC
Lionel:

Thank you for the additional information.

On Mac OS, the LO installer is a .dmg 'package', and there is apparently no ability to instal separate 'components'. It's just 'all-or-none' for that particular LO version. I have looked most of the sources you mention without success, but I will follow-up your suggestions in more intensively, and report back. (It it very frustrating that it does not, at this stage, seem possible to easily use the legacy report designer component in recent versions of LO.). Surely a 'switch' could be added to the GUI??
Comment 10 Lionel Elie Mamane 2014-02-11 08:50:32 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> Surely a 'switch' could be added to the GUI??

The addition of that switch is the purpose of this enhancement request / bug report.
Comment 11 frofa 2014-02-11 09:12:16 UTC
Lionel:

Yes, that is understood. But WHY is this perfectly useful (and, in my opinion, superior) tool be so difficult to access in recent versions of LO? Surely there must be a relatively simple way of bringing it back? And why should the access process be different for Mac OS compared to the other platforms? (I hope someone is listening to feedback.)
Comment 12 Alex Thurgood 2015-01-03 17:40:44 UTC Comment hidden (no-value)