Bug 72120 - UI: Ability to use imposition N-up / folded layout when exporting to PDF.
Summary: UI: Ability to use imposition N-up / folded layout when exporting to PDF.
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Printing and PDF export (show other bugs)
Version:
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unspecified
Hardware: Other All
: low enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: filter:pdf
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Blocks: PDF-Export
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Reported: 2013-11-28 12:16 UTC by boicottms
Modified: 2018-02-09 20:14 UTC (History)
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Description boicottms 2013-11-28 12:16:31 UTC
I would like the abilty to output to a multi-page document (print or pdf) through imposition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imposition.
Maybe this project can be a good starting point: http://pdfbooklet.sourceforge.net/
I love to be able to print my writer's address book to a booklet that fits 32 pages, back and front, of a single A4. Fold it cut and staple and keep it in my purse.
I used to do it on a Mac Classic Es in the '80 for free with a special printer driver. Now I shall buy Clickbook.
Comment 1 Owen Genat (retired) 2014-07-18 06:37:29 UTC
Seems like a good feature to have (required for industrial prepress) so confirmed. Unsure what the feasibility is though as it will require providing a facility to determine the N-up / folding. Hopefully not too dissimilar to the current page preview calculations.

Status set to NEW. Summary amended for clarity.
Comment 2 boicottms 2016-11-09 19:37:08 UTC
even better not only imposition of pdf files but also stright to the printer.
I'm not a programmer but there are many libraries like http://podofo.sourceforge.net/about.html or http://itextpdf.com/ that can maybe be implemented without too much effort?
Comment 3 Jean-Francois Nifenecker 2017-11-19 13:47:32 UTC
This functionality is often asked for, esp. with Writer or Impress. Making it available would help users who are reluctant to deal with several different tools to achieve that goal.
Comment 4 Cor Nouws 2017-11-23 15:07:19 UTC
Hi boicottms,

The request is basically the same as th print option to have output as brochure?
(File > Print ... tab Page Layout)
Comment 5 Cor Nouws 2017-12-29 15:04:22 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #4)
> Hi boicottms,
> 
> The request is basically the same as th print option to have output as
> brochure?
> (File > Print ... tab Page Layout)
Comment 6 boicottms 2018-01-17 16:50:07 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #4)
Hi Cor Nouws,
Sorry for the late answer.
No, a real imposition software distributes and scales a rotates the pages (on both sides of the sheets) so that you can fold the paper sheet and cut the margins and have a booklet (the first page on the back of the last and so on).
The current booklet seems just to print pages (scaled)in order, sort of thumbnails.
Thank you
Comment 7 Cor Nouws 2018-02-08 13:35:24 UTC
(In reply to boicottms from comment #6)
> Sorry for the late answer.

it's OK.

> The current booklet seems just to print pages (scaled)in order, sort of
> thumbnails.

What oder do you mean with "in order" ?
Comment 8 boicottms 2018-02-09 08:53:43 UTC
@cur nouws 
you can see samples at the Wikipedia link in my first post. Like https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:8up_imposition.svg 
The idea is two side print, fold and you'll find the pages in the right order and orientation, so that once cut four pages will be on each sheet arranged in an order that you can fold them all together and bind. NOT in numerical sequence. For more info please refer to the Wikipedia article. My English is too bad to explain better.
Thanks
Comment 9 Cor Nouws 2018-02-09 12:59:48 UTC
(In reply to boicottms from comment #8)

> The idea is two side print, fold and you'll find the pages in the right
> order and orientation, so that once cut four pages will be on each sheet
> arranged in an order that you can fold them all together and bind. NOT in
> numerical sequence.

It looks as if you never tried the Brochure function in printing LibreOffice. Or in any way not succeeded to use it as intended: exactly the way you describe :)
Comment 10 V Stuart Foote 2018-02-09 16:41:51 UTC
@Cor, *

Imposition is a print control beyond the limited "brochure" handling we now provide. Our brochure printing does perform imposition at 2-up, and correctly scales impressions to selected paper size and reorders print output for a single vertical fold of the printed page.

More complete imposition would require additional control of output to accommodate  the impression (i.e. the page) rotation, and sequencing, needed for both vertical and horizontal folding of the final printed page.

Also, providing support for general N-up printing (i.e. N number of impressions per printed page) would make sense. Don't think we'd need to support 32-up, but certainly 16-up, including imposition layout of 32 pages.

Back to NEW
Comment 11 Cor Nouws 2018-02-09 20:14:29 UTC
Thanks Stuart for making clear to me what is wanted more than a brochure.