Bug 81348 - SUGGESTION: inclusion of a 'delete this document' option in the file menu
Summary: SUGGESTION: inclusion of a 'delete this document' option in the file menu
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.2.5.2 release
Hardware: Other Windows (All)
: lowest enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Whiteboard: BSA
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Reported: 2014-07-14 13:24 UTC by DavidM
Modified: 2014-12-23 22:09 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description DavidM 2014-07-14 13:24:11 UTC
RE: In Libre office: 

Can you please include a "delete this document"  in the list of options under "File".



Thanks,


David 

              
Operating System: Windows 8
Version: 4.2.5.2 release
Comment 1 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2014-07-14 21:51:34 UTC
Dear David,

I personally dont think libreoffice should act like a file manager, but will let someone else from the QA team give their opinion on the matter.
Comment 2 DavidM 2014-07-14 22:26:26 UTC
Dear Philip,


Thank you for your reply.

I totally disagree with your stance on the problem.

I think your stance and attitude  is ridiculous,  irresponsible and reprehensible.

What is such a big deal about adding  a "delete" feature?

It is extremely awkward and cumbersome  to delete unwanted documents,  if one is going through documents and finds one that is corrupted or not needed for any reason.

For goodness sakes there is already many  aspects of file management in the file options, but a very important one: 

 "delete this document"  is missing.



It may be your idea or viewpoint, 

but you are wrong.

It is a very necessary part or function of an app.


Therefore I appeal your viewpoint.

Thank you for your understanding.

In good faith, I did make a  donation to Libre, when I downloaded it, 

and I expect you to operate with integrity and good attitude,

 and act in good faith and good will, 

 to make the best possible and most user friendly product possible,

 and give the product the best reputation possible. 



Yours truly,

David Pelly




From: bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org
To: david.pelly@hotmail.ca
Subject: [Bug 81348] EDITING: Suggestion
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:51:34 +0000


    
      
    
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            Comment # 1
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              from  Jay Philips

        Dear David,

I personally dont think libreoffice should act like a file manager, but will
let someone else from the QA team give their opinion on the matter.
        
      

      
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Comment 3 sophie 2014-07-15 13:53:02 UTC
Hi David, I agree with Jay that it's not the role of an office suite to manage the files, files manager are done for that, with all the necessary properties to do it correctly. Thanks a lot for your donation to our project and rest assure that we operate with integrity and good attitude to develop the best suite even when we provide our product for free. I'm closing this request for enhancement.
If you want to comment on this bug, please use this link
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81348
replying from your mail will add unneeded information. Sophie
Comment 4 DavidM 2014-07-15 14:23:06 UTC
Hi Sophie,

Thank you for your reply.

I think your atitude and POV is irresponsible.


And: Just because you disagree with me does not mean you are right.

If it is not your responsibility to make such an improvement, whose responsibility is it?


David 

From: bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org
To: david.pelly@hotmail.ca
Subject: [Bug 81348] SUGGESTION: inclusion of a 'delete this document' option in the file menu
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:53:02 +0000


    
      
    
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            Comment # 3
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              from  sophie

        Hi David, I agree with Jay that it's not the role of an office suite to manage
the files, files manager are done for that, with all the necessary properties
to do it correctly. Thanks a lot for your donation to our project and rest
assure that we operate with integrity and good attitude to develop the best
suite even when we provide our product for free. I'm closing this request for
enhancement.
If you want to comment on this bug, please use this link
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81348
replying from your mail will add unneeded information. Sophie
        
      

      
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Comment 6 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2014-07-18 07:20:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> I think your stance and attitude  is ridiculous,  irresponsible and
> reprehensible.

You have no right to call anybody “ridiculous”, “irresponsible” or “reprehensible”. I did not see Jay replying to you in a disrespectful or insulting manner, an I don’t think his response deserves any of your qualifiers.

> but you are wrong

Nobody’s “wrong” or “right” here.

> It is a very necessary [...]

No, it is not. That’s your opinion.

Why should LibreOffice start adding file management features? If you find deleting files “extremely awkward and cumbersome”, I would blame Windows 8. Microsoft Office has never had a “Delete this document” command as well. That simply does not belong in an office suite.


Please do not reply via e-mail to the bug tracker as the long quotations clutter the comments. Use the web interface.
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2014-07-19 00:57:06 UTC
@DavidM - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Policies_and_Procedures

Please read the above as your coments violate LibreOffice's policies and procedures for bugzilla. If you have questions feel free to email them to the QA list. This is your first warning about inappropriate language/criticism of our community
Comment 8 DavidM 2014-07-19 12:53:18 UTC
Ok, now that I figured out that file manager is not part of libre office,   and I now understand  that it is part of windows .....

 (and which my computer technician (from Geek Squad)  did not either, when I asked him to try and fix it, and told me that it was libre's problem) 

Jay should of realized (saw)  that I did not understand that  file manager was not part of Libre office but part of windows,  and explained that to me, instead of just saying that they will not add that feature that I asked for.


There what do you call that kind of customer service.


I also think your beratement of me was ridiculous and unwarranted.

There was nothing wrong with the words that I used, because they were true.

Is a person not allowed to speak the truth?  


Your customer skills are poor. 


I am probably a lot older than you are, too.


David Pelly

From: bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org
To: david.pelly@hotmail.ca
Subject: [Bug 81348] SUGGESTION: inclusion of a 'delete this document' option in the file menu
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:20:22 +0000


    
      
    
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            Comment # 6
              on bug 81348
              from  Adolfo Jayme

        (In reply to comment #2)
> I think your stance and attitude  is ridiculous,  irresponsible and
> reprehensible.

You have no right to call anybody “ridiculous”, “irresponsible” or
“reprehensible”. I did not see Jay replying to you in a disrespectful or
insulting manner, an I don’t think his response deserves any of your
qualifiers.

> but you are wrong

Nobody’s “wrong” or “right” here.

> It is a very necessary [...]

No, it is not. That’s your opinion.

Why should LibreOffice start adding file management features? If you find
deleting files “extremely awkward and cumbersome”, I would blame Windows 8.
Microsoft Office has never had a “Delete this document” command as well. That
simply does not belong in an office suite.


Please do not reply via e-mail to the bug tracker as the long quotations
clutter the comments. Use the web interface.
        
      

      
      You are receiving this mail because:
      
      
          You reported the bug.
Comment 9 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2014-07-19 21:05:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> Ok, now that I figured out that file manager is not part of libre office,  
> and I now understand  that it is part of windows .....

I'm glad the you have finally figure this out.

>  (and which my computer technician (from Geek Squad)  did not either, when I
> asked him to try and fix it, and told me that it was libre's problem) 

If your computer technician from Geek Squad didn't know that a word processor isnt supposed to act like a file manager, then unfortunately he/she is a moron, and you should file a complaint with them about this issue and never use their service again as you are wasting your money paying individuals who dont know what they are talking about. If you simply search on google and youtube for most of your computer problems, you will likely find webpages and videos that can help you with them, and its for free.

> Jay should of realized (saw)  that I did not understand that  file manager
> was not part of Libre office but part of windows,  and explained that to me,
> instead of just saying that they will not add that feature that I asked for.

I am not a mind reader to know what you do or do not know? I simply stated that "I personally dont think libreoffice should act like a file manager" and if you didn't know what a file manager is or how it functions, then you should have simply asked politely for more information. But instead you chose to insult not only me but Sophie as well and state "It may be your idea or viewpoint, you are wrong." and "Just because you disagree with me does not mean you are right.", when you didn't know what you were talking about. Your responses have been similar to you going into KFC and asking to order a pizza, only to then know that they dont sell pizzas, and then demanding to speak to the manager because you think KFC should be selling pizzas.

> There what do you call that kind of customer service.

We are not here to act as a customer support service, as you are not paying us for such support. Your donations go towards the continuous development of the software, which you are using for free. We are here to listen to users suggestions and decide whether or not they are valid for what we believe the software should contain.

> I also think your beratement of me was ridiculous and unwarranted.

If you are ready to insult people dont be surprised when they insult you back.

> There was nothing wrong with the words that I used, because they were true.
>
> Is a person not allowed to speak the truth?  

Unfortunately there was no truth behind your suggestion for the inclusion of a 'delete this document' feature and no truth behind your insults. The first thing behind speaking the truth, is knowing what you are saying is actually true, but clearly you didn't know what you were saying and acted as if you did. You calling your opinion truth, doesn't make it true. And if this discussion is all about saying the truth, then unfortunately the truth is that you are an idiot, but of course, thats just my opinion.

> Your customer skills are poor. 

Your manners are poor.

> I am probably a lot older than you are, too.

Age doesn't give you the right to disrespect others and you'd think that someone who is older would be more polite and wiser, but it seems that hasn't happened for you.

Looking over previous bugs that you have submitted, i see that i had assisted you with bug 80857. It is clear that you are a new users and as such you should spend time learning about the software rather than asking for help because you dont understand how it works. You can find a playlist of 91 video at the following link on how to use LibreOffice Writer < http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL94682FC0D2ADF410 >.

I personally wont be reading or commenting anymore on this issue, or any more issues that are submitted from you, as its a complete waste of my time, time that i volunteer for free that can be used more wisely than this.
Comment 10 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2014-12-23 22:09:40 UTC
Whiteboard: Remove 'needQAAdvice' once bug is NEW/RESOLVED.