Bug 84580 - <ctrl><home> does not to the top of the document in certain instances
Summary: <ctrl><home> does not to the top of the document in certain instances
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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4.3.0.4 release
Hardware: All All
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Blocks: Shortcuts-Accelerators Writer-UX
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Reported: 2014-10-02 00:39 UTC by Todd
Modified: 2022-09-22 08:34 UTC (History)
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Description Todd 2014-10-02 00:39:29 UTC 
Dear Intrepid Hero Developers,

Okay, this is annoying.  I have several documents that I need to get to the table of contents on the first page to get were I need to go.  Ordinarily, I can just press <ctrl><home>  (or <ctrl><end> to go to the bottom).

In certain instances, this does not work.

1)  if a graphic is enabled by my cursor

2)  I have copied HTML code from a web site.  Then I can only go to top of the HTML "Frame".

In both instances, I have to find some regular text to click on, then <ctrl><home|end> will work.

Please fix this. It is driving me crazy.

Many thanks,
-T
Comment 1 Tim Lloyd 2014-10-04 01:33:20 UTC 
Hi Todd,

I have noticed this before when the cursor is sitting in the table of contents - I can only move within the TOC.

To expand on your issue:

- from a web browser select an image and save to disk as jpg
- open an existing odt document in writer
- move to a random position in the file
- insert the saved image into the odt file
- place the cursor on the image
- <ctrl><home/end> only move within the image
- move cursor outside of the image and <ctrl><home/end> move to the top/bottom of the document as expected

I recreated this using Fedora 21 4.3.2.2
I also recreated with a doc document in Windows XP 4.2.04

Todd, could you pls advise whether the above is your experience and also your operating system/LO version number?
Comment 2 Todd 2014-10-04 02:04:50 UTC 
verified on the Table of contents.  To the top of the table

LibreOffice_4.3.2_Linux_x86-64_rpm.tar.gz

$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Scientific Linux release 6.5 (Carbon)

$ uname -r
2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64
Comment 3 Tim Lloyd 2014-10-05 02:05:49 UTC 
Based on Todd's input and my confirmation, I am marking this as new
Comment 4 Todd 2014-11-15 02:08:34 UTC 
Dear LibreOffice Developers,

LibreOffice_4.3.3_Linux_x86-64_rpm.tar.gz

I have been working with a lot of large odt's with tables and graphics.  I have to find some plain text before I an can <ctrl><home> to get to my table of contents some I can find things I need to update/create.

It is kind of driving me crazy.  Has there been any progress on fixing this?

Many thanks,
-T
Comment 5 Gordo 2015-06-24 18:14:27 UTC 
For tables, frames, and table of contents, Ctrl + Home takes you to the beginning of that object, and now you can Ctrl + Home again to get to the beginning of the document.

If an image is selected just press Esc and then Ctrl + Home.

Windows Vista 64
Version: 4.4.4.2
Build ID: f784c932ccfd756d01b70b6bb5e09ff62e1b3285

Tested back to at least 4.1.6.2.

I want to change this to WFM but it needs to be tested in Linux.
Comment 6 Tim Lloyd 2015-06-25 08:13:55 UTC 
Version: 5.0.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 2a886adb500fe481e1ea61573551b19e99c55b8b
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2015-05-20_00:31:27
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8)

Fedora 22

Inside ToC pressing CTRL-HOME takes you to the top of the document which is the ToC
Pressing CTRL-END takes you to the end of the line, press CTRL-END again takes you to the end of the ToC. press CTRL-END again takes you to the end of the file.
Comment 7 Todd 2015-06-27 02:41:27 UTC 
(In reply to Gordo from comment #5)
> For tables, frames, and table of contents, Ctrl + Home takes you to the
> beginning of that object, and now you can Ctrl + Home again to get to the
> beginning of the document.
> 
> If an image is selected just press Esc and then Ctrl + Home.
> 
> Windows Vista 64
> Version: 4.4.4.2
> Build ID: f784c932ccfd756d01b70b6bb5e09ff62e1b3285
> 
> Tested back to at least 4.1.6.2.
> 
> I want to change this to WFM but it needs to be tested in Linux.


Hi Gordo,

You described the current operation.  When I am working on these kinds of documents I NEVER want to go tho the top of the object.  I want to go to the top of the document.  I am requesting that you change the current operation.

Going to the top of the object is completely useless.  Please consider removing the feature.

Many thanks,
-T
Comment 8 Gordo 2015-06-27 11:52:40 UTC 
There are other options.  Double clicking on the table of contents in Navigator will take you there.  You can set a bookmark at the beginning of the document.  Double clicking on the bookmark in Navigator will take you there or you can right click on the page numbers in the status bar to get the bookmark if you do not want to keep Navigator open.  If that is the only bookmark then you can use a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the next bookmark.

As to removing the current functionality, there may be people who find it useful.
Comment 9 Todd 2015-06-27 17:07:54 UTC 
(In reply to Gordo from comment #8)
> There are other options.  Double clicking on the table of contents in
> Navigator will take you there.  You can set a bookmark at the beginning of
> the document.  Double clicking on the bookmark in Navigator will take you
> there or you can right click on the page numbers in the status bar to get
> the bookmark if you do not want to keep Navigator open.  If that is the only
> bookmark then you can use a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the next
> bookmark.

Hi Gordo,

Interesting comment.  I have an extensive Table Of Contents.  The main reason I use <ctlr><home> is to get to my Table of Contents.  What you are recommending is that I use a work around in place of <ctrl><home> instead of correcting the functionality of <ctrl><home> to match what is expected by the user.  (I have used <ctrl><home> to get to the top of my documents since the 1980's.)

> As to removing the current functionality, there may be people who find it
> useful.

Please try to determine if there are any that appreciate this non-standard functionality.  My experience with it is that no one will.  Everyone who has ever used <ctrl><home> will expect it to function the way they have always seen it function everywhere else in the past.

-T
Comment 10 Todd 2015-12-02 00:54:19 UTC 
This still exists in 5.0.3.2 and is an ABSOLUTE PAIN IN THE ...

Please fix this soon!
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2017-01-03 19:39:33 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 Todd 2017-01-03 20:42:30 UTC 
Bug still exists in 5.2.4.2.  Please continue to ignore it.
Comment 13 QA Administrators 2018-01-04 03:35:02 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 14 Todd 2018-01-04 04:40:02 UTC 
As of

$ rpm -qa libreoffice
libreoffice-5.4.4.2-1.fc27.x86_64

This issue is still a total annoyance!
Comment 15 QA Administrators 2019-01-05 03:41:55 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 16 Todd 2019-01-05 03:50:19 UTC 
This EXTREMELY ANNOYING bug is still active in 6.1.4.2

Would you guys please jump on this?
Comment 17 QA Administrators 2022-09-22 03:55:46 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 18 Todd 2022-09-22 08:34:57 UTC 
Dear QA,

Fedora 36
libreoffice7.4-7.4.1.2-2.x86_64

Yes, the bug is still present.  <ctrl><home> still pops you to the upper, left cell on your table (1,1), instead of to the top of the document.

Anything you can do to get this pain-in-the-neck fixed would be mostly appreciated.

-T