By disabling by default the 'line and filling' and 'text formatting' toolbars, this increases the available space available to viewing the slide, which also simplifies the UI. All features available in these two toolbars are present in the properties tab of the sidebar as well as in the context menu, so there are many advantages to having these hidden by default.
The formatting tool bars are always visible by default.
Depending on the state, they sort of change appearance. See the discussion with Object.
I advise against changing this.
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #1)
> The formatting tool bars are always visible by default.
> Depending on the state, they sort of change appearance.
Yes the object, image, and formatting toolbars hide and unhide depending on context.
> See the discussion with Object.
Didnt understand this part.
(In reply to Jay Philips from comment #2)
> (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #1)
> > See the discussion with Object.
> Didnt understand this part.
There was an issue with a weird idea (INMSHO) to ripp the formatting toolbar when an object is selected and change others to replace that :D
(In reply to Jay Philips from comment #2)
> Yes the object, image, and formatting toolbars hide and unhide depending on
Indeed, it are only three here.
But with removing two, we would accept the slide area shifting down when an image becomes selected.
Is that worth the gain? I would expect people working with images would be annoyed.
Or is the plan to remove that one too (is all the stuff from the images toolbar to the side bar?) ?
(Now I see that when a frame is selected, the side bar has the character and paragraph parts of the panel active and not the area and line. Must be for another issue?)
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #4)
> Is that worth the gain? I would expect people working with images would be
Yes its about streamlining the UI, as the the properties tab of the sidebar has most, if not all, features available in the 3 toolbars.
> Or is the plan to remove that one too (is all the stuff from the images
> toolbar to the side bar?) ?
Yes the image toolbar would also be hidden as well.
> (Now I see that when a frame is selected, the side bar has the character and
> paragraph parts of the panel active and not the area and line. Must be for
> another issue?)
When you say 'frame', do you mean textbox?
Patch is in - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/14550/
Yousuf Philips committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":
tdf#87676 hide object, text and image toolbars by default
It will be available in 4.5.0.
The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
This bug fix is mentioned in the release notes of the coming LibreOffice 5.0 (see release notes https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0). Therefore it would be wonderful if this feature really worked well, otherwise it should not be mentioned in the release notes. In the notes it reads:
Rearrangement of toolbars in Impress tdf#87676 (Yousuf Philips)
Created attachment 120123 [details]
Keep text formatting toolbar always visible
Sirs and Madams, Please kindly undo the appearing and disappearing "text formatting toolbar" trick LO impress. It is very distracting. Earlier it was very good. "text formatting toolbar" always remained visible. now with selection of text box, the slides make a downward or upward dance, which is not needed at all. We all could do without that 1 cm of real space. I have used keynote, MS office and LO. I have liked LO the most. But maybe this dance of slides upward and downward will drive me away from LO again. And maybe again I will be disappointed in other office suites and come back to LO. I am a laymen user. I mainly use Impress for presentations and calc for spreadsheet. Please if you like this disappearing and reappearing "text formatting toolbar", Please give us an option to permanently enable/Make "text formatting toolbar" always visible. Please . Always grateful.
Thank you for the screencast. If you'd like it to work similar to how it was before this change, simple enable the 'Line and Filling' toolbar when the 'Text Formatting' toolbar is hidden. You can do this in the View > Toolbar submenu.