Bug 91231 - Online Help Italian translation error (LO Calc)
Summary: Online Help Italian translation error (LO Calc)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.4.3.2 release
Hardware: Other Windows (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Valter Mura
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Reported: 2015-05-11 20:21 UTC by gmarco
Modified: 2015-07-02 16:45 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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2015-07-02 14:12 UTC, gmarco
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Description gmarco 2015-05-11 20:21:17 UTC
I show an error translation in the help (both internet and offline):
"https://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Applying_Conditional_Formatting"
at "Step 5: Copy Cell Style"
"To apply the conditional formatting to other cells later:
1.Click one of the cells that has been assigned conditional formatting.
...... "
has been incorrectly translated in the italian version:
"1.Fate clic su una delle celle a cui deve essere applicata la formattazione condizionata."
The correct translation is:
"1.Fate clic su una delle celle a cui รจ stata applicata la formattazione condizionata."
Comment 1 Julien Nabet 2015-05-12 19:56:55 UTC
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/translations/source/it/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#2925 shows it's still the same in po file.

Valter: one for you?
Comment 2 Valter Mura 2015-05-12 21:58:53 UTC
I will check and correct.
Comment 3 Valter Mura 2015-05-16 09:53:38 UTC
Correction done for 4.3, 4.4 and master in Pootle.
Comment 4 gmarco 2015-05-17 12:59:07 UTC
I cannot download the offline version as garr.it is not replying,
but the online text is already uncorrected.
Comment 5 gmarco 2015-05-17 21:19:58 UTC
After downloading LibreOffice_4.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_it I confirm: NO correction.
Comment 6 Valter Mura 2015-05-23 17:42:15 UTC
This is because git should update against translated packages in Pootle.

Will check with PICs.
Comment 7 tommy27 2015-06-22 21:01:52 UTC
any news about it, Valter?
Comment 8 Valter Mura 2015-06-24 18:29:36 UTC
I confirm the changes has been done one month ago, they usually will spread once a new version of the program will be released.
Maybe Christian (in copy) could help us to understand why not it happened. :)
Comment 9 Christian Lohmaier 2015-06-29 20:11:58 UTC
sorry, I don't understand your question.

You notice a bug in Version A, then fix the stuff in pootle, and when you test Version A again  you're surprised that the same error is there?

Time travel is considered too risky, that's why we cannot fix stuff in already released versions of LibreOffice...

Reason why it was (and still is ) in 4.3 and 4.4.3 is just that the string was like that in pootle at the time when the export was done.

In the meantime, the 4-4 branch as well as the 5-0 branch have the corrected string, so I'd consider this fixed/works-for-me

So check with 4.4.*4* (rc3 is current at this point of time), and not with 4.4.3 (that, as mentioned just was created before the fix was done in pootle)
Comment 10 gmarco 2015-06-29 21:11:33 UTC
(In reply to Christian Lohmaier from comment #9)
> sorry, I don't understand your question.
> 
> You notice a bug in Version A, then fix the stuff in pootle, and when you
> test Version A again  you're surprised that the same error is there?
> 
> Time travel is considered too risky, that's why we cannot fix stuff in
> already released versions of LibreOffice...
> .....

Sorry, I don't understand to whom it is your comment, my last dates back to May 17, today is June 29.
I think that no one can claim the fix of an already released version (but look at the comment #3 of May 16).
Nevertheless, the above is not true for the online help (internet): there, today, the help is still not corrected, you want to check?
Comment 11 Valter Mura 2015-06-30 20:42:16 UTC
The fact is that tommy27 has reopened this bug.
From my side it is closed, because I corrected the errors indicated in all versions available.
The online help "takes" the strings from GIT, afaik, so maybe we have to check with the website team in order to solve the remaining issue.
So, better to close it after having corrected also the online help.
Brdgs,
Valter
Comment 13 tommy27 2015-07-01 03:52:41 UTC
thanks Andras. it's fixed now in the online help.
any idea why the change Valter did weeks ago did not automatically go online?
Comment 14 gmarco 2015-07-01 07:58:26 UTC
It seems OK for me too, thanks.
Comment 15 Andras Timar 2015-07-01 19:13:53 UTC
(In reply to tommy27 from comment #13)
> thanks Andras. it's fixed now in the online help.
> any idea why the change Valter did weeks ago did not automatically go online?

Wiki help is updated manually. There is no automatic update.
Comment 16 Valter Mura 2015-07-01 20:04:00 UTC
Hi, as explained by Christian:

"Online-Help won't be updated for single bugfixes - for that the
process is too hefty.

But when the online-help is updated, you can expect the same
translation as in the then-current release (in other words: same as in
the just released 4.4.4)
Translations for online-help are not taken from pootle, but from the
sourcecode used to build LO, thus they match the release builds."

Thank to All for the feedback
Comment 17 gmarco 2015-07-02 14:12:40 UTC
Created attachment 116997 [details]
screen shot
Comment 18 gmarco 2015-07-02 14:15:56 UTC
(In reply to Valter Mura from comment #16)
> Hi, as explained by Christian:
> 
> "Online-Help won't be updated for single bugfixes - for that the
> process is too hefty.
> 
> But when the online-help is updated, you can expect the same
> translation as in the then-current release (in other words: same as in
> the just released 4.4.4)
> Translations for online-help are not taken from pootle, but from the
> sourcecode used to build LO, thus they match the release builds."
> 
> Thank to All for the feedback

Thank to you, Valter
but now I ask another thing: in the Options I have selected the automatic warning for updates, in the past I had been alerted and asked to download 4.4.3.2.
After that, no further alert and, looking at "?-->verify updates" I see what in the attachment (look at).
What are you telling me?
Comment 19 gmarco 2015-07-02 16:45:18 UTC
P.S.
in the screenshot you see "LO 4.4 is updated", and that means in Italian Language "NO need to look for and download any new.