Bug 91344 - help for Writer "View" menu is not updated
Summary: help for Writer "View" menu is not updated
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: Other Windows (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
Whiteboard: target:7.4.0
: 91343 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: Help-Changes-Menu Help-Changes-Features
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Reported: 2015-05-17 13:27 UTC by gmarco
Modified: 2022-08-08 19:53 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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help Writer/View.jpg (93.72 KB, image/jpeg)
2015-05-17 13:28 UTC, gmarco
menu'Visualizza'.jpg (39.29 KB, image/jpeg)
2015-09-26 15:29 UTC, gmarco
help for 'Visualizza'.pdf (11.33 KB, application/pdf)
2015-09-26 15:30 UTC, gmarco
help home.pdf (7.85 KB, application/pdf)
2015-09-26 15:32 UTC, gmarco
screenshot 'TestoSorgenteHTML' (131.61 KB, image/jpeg)
2015-09-26 15:34 UTC, gmarco
screenshot about View menu and help (181.46 KB, image/jpeg)
2017-01-10 20:50 UTC, gmarco

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Description gmarco 2015-05-17 13:27:07 UTC
Note the difference between reality and online help (here some items are missing).
Comment 1 gmarco 2015-05-17 13:28:59 UTC
Created attachment 115678 [details]
help Writer/View.jpg
Comment 2 tommy27 2015-05-17 17:54:27 UTC
*** Bug 91343 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 gmarco 2015-05-17 19:29:39 UTC
You are right, excuse me, I mistaked something trying to edit the previus.
Comment 4 gmarco 2015-05-17 20:44:57 UTC
Out of curiosity I extended testing (both in Write that in Calc) and all pull-down menus have many differences both between online help and reality, both between English and Italian versions.
I realize that the task is onerous, but a general review would be appropriate.
Comment 5 gmarco 2015-07-05 12:52:49 UTC
after installing I confirm what said
Comment 6 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2015-07-12 12:41:02 UTC
(In reply to gmarco from comment #0)
> Note the difference between reality and online help (here some items are
> missing).

Perhaps the items you find missing are self explaining and do not need specific help. Please give details on what is missing in the English online help.

That said it is not a surprising news that the help is late on the GUI. Your help is welcome. ;-)

Set status to NEEDINFO, please set it back to UNCONFIRMED once you have provided requested information.

Best regards. JBF
Comment 7 gmarco 2015-07-12 16:11:47 UTC
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #6)
> Perhaps the items you find missing are self explaining and do not need
> specific help. Please give details on what is missing in the English online
> help.

Pointing out that the differences that I reported are related to the Italian version, here is what you require:
- in the real menu I see "Visualizza", online is "Visualizzazione"
then in the real pop-up:
- "Barre degli strumenti" not in the online where I see "Testo sorgente HTML"
- "Contorni tabella" not online
- "Commenti" not online
- "Immagini" not online
- "Galleria Clip Art" not online
- "Barra laterale" not online

I think it is not a question related to unusefull or self explaining items, I think instead that the online page (that specific page)should reproduce exactly what I see in the reality.
Do you agree?
Comment 8 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2015-09-26 03:23:04 UTC
Feel free to submit translation suggestions to https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it
Comment 9 gmarco 2015-09-26 15:29:24 UTC
Created attachment 119040 [details]
Comment 10 gmarco 2015-09-26 15:30:54 UTC
Created attachment 119041 [details]
help for 'Visualizza'.pdf
Comment 11 gmarco 2015-09-26 15:32:48 UTC
Created attachment 119042 [details]
help home.pdf
Comment 12 gmarco 2015-09-26 15:34:03 UTC
Created attachment 119043 [details]
screenshot 'TestoSorgenteHTML'
Comment 13 gmarco 2015-09-26 17:23:21 UTC
(In reply to gmarco from comment #12)
> Created attachment 119043 [details]
> screenshot 'TestoSorgenteHTML'

Not a question of translation, but of non-alignment between what appears in the dropdown menu and what is in the guide: compare attachments "menu'Visualizza'.jpg" and "help for 'Visualizza'.pdf".
In the dropdown appear different item-topics that are not even in the guide (Barre degli strumenti, Contorni tabella, Commenti, Immagini, Galleria Clip Art, Barra laterale): even should they be self explaining, they would have a recall in the help-guide with a minimum of explanation.
In the guide appears instead an argument (Testo sorgente HTML) that is not in the dropdown: go to the introduction (see "help home.pdf"), clicking on Menu you get to the contextual screen, click on View and then on "Testo sorgente HTML" and here (see "screenshot 'TestoSorgenteHTML'") we read "Per accedere a questo comando...Scegliete Visualizza - Testo sorgente HTML" (English: To access this command ... Choose View - HTML Source) .... but in the dropdown the argument is not mentioned!
Comment 14 gmarco 2015-09-26 17:33:07 UTC
My comment 13 is in reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #8
Comment 15 Olivier Hallot 2016-02-10 00:37:24 UTC
It looks like that the differences observed in the Italian LibreOffice is consequence of the changes in the menu that where not reflected in the help pages.

Possible dup of bug 92825.

Please confirm if the issue is still valid in LibreOffice 5.1 because many help pages were updated from the new menus. Wherever possible, please use the default English UI for reporting.
Comment 16 gmarco 2016-02-10 09:19:10 UTC
How can bug 91344 be a dup of 92825?
Nevertheless, I am now in LO and nothing has changed (only some items posponed in the view menu).
Comment 17 gmarco 2017-01-10 20:50:33 UTC
Created attachment 130307 [details]
screenshot about View menu and help

Still NEW since long time but still so or similar in LO
Look at the new attachment: on the left the Writer menu, on the right the online help.
Comment 18 sdc.blanco 2020-11-16 21:47:41 UTC
Modified bug summary to describe better the problem.
Comment 19 Commit Notification 2022-05-30 13:21:14 UTC
Olivier Hallot committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":


tdf#91344 help for Writer "View" menu is not updated