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Bug 91724 - libreoffice documentation is not completely accessible for blind people
Summary: libreoffice documentation is not completely accessible for blind people
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.3.0.4 release
Hardware: All Windows (All)
: highest major
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: accessibility
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Blocks: a11y Help
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Reported: 2015-05-29 15:17 UTC by zahra
Modified: 2019-08-15 15:34 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Description zahra 2015-05-29 15:17:43 UTC
documantation is not completely accessible for blinds which i tested on windows. we can not read help via arro keys by nvda. most of the times it does need mouse. and even when we install offline help file discribtion for menu and dialogs are not completely accessible via keyboard and nvda does not it by default or by arro keys.
Comment 1 Julien Nabet 2015-05-30 20:56:12 UTC
Zahra: on which env are you (Windows, MacOs, Linux)?
Which LibreOffice version do you use? FYI, last stable one is 4.4.3
Comment 2 zahra 2015-05-31 04:17:05 UTC
hi. thanks so much for your answer. 
i tried many versions of libreoffice since version 4.3.0 and the last version which i use is version 4.4.0 
i use windows xp but i offered libreoffice to many of my friends and they said that they have the problems which i mentioned.
Comment 3 Julien Nabet 2015-05-31 07:31:30 UTC
Zahra: Sorry for having asked the env, you had quoted it in your initial description.

Sophie/Niklas: thought you might be interested in this one since it concerns accessibility for documentation. Any thought? Should we ping ui team for example?
Comment 4 sophie 2015-05-31 15:31:07 UTC
Hi Zahra, there is an option to activate under Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Accessibility, in the Other Options area, the first option Use text selection cursor in read-only text documents. This option should allow you to read the via arrow keys. Let us know if it works for you. Sophie
Comment 5 tommy27 2015-06-24 05:28:04 UTC
@Zahra
please tell if the suggestion from Sophie fixes your issue.
I set status to NEEDINFO waiting for your feedback.
also remember to upgrade to latest LibO release (4.4.3.2 right now).
Comment 6 zahra 2015-06-24 16:58:58 UTC
(In reply to tommy27 from comment #5)
> @Zahra
> please tell if the suggestion from Sophie fixes your issue.
> I set status to NEEDINFO waiting for your feedback.
> also remember to upgrade to latest LibO release (4.4.3.2 right now).

hi. thanks so much for your time and guide. but as you mentioned 
Use text selection cursor in read-only text documents is only for reading and does not work for editing and writing. 
i tried many versions of libreoffice and i face this problem in all of them. 
i even tested libreoffice 5 beta and it was completely like previous versions. 
accessibility has no improvement since version 4.3.0
Comment 7 zahra 2015-06-24 17:03:06 UTC
(In reply to tommy27 from comment #5)
> @Zahra
> please tell if the suggestion from Sophie fixes your issue.
> I set status to NEEDINFO waiting for your feedback.
> also remember to upgrade to latest LibO release (4.4.3.2 right now).

and also i mentioned libreoffice documentation is not completely accessible. 
and also when i installed its help file its discribtion of menu is not accessible.
Comment 8 Olivier Hallot 2017-04-06 14:02:51 UTC
Although it refers to documentation, this is also an Accessibility issue of the local help system. 

This bug should be better addressed if the component is UI, Framework or Writer/Web (this last is the tool used by the local help.
Comment 9 Julien Nabet 2019-05-22 19:30:49 UTC
Re reading this bugtracker some years after, I don't understand this part:
"Use text selection cursor in read-only text documents is only for reading and does not work for editing and writing"
We're talking about documentation so it's not about editing and writing since documentation is read-only.
If Sophie's suggestion works for documentation which is read-only, the pb should be solved.
Did I miss something?
Comment 10 Olivier Hallot 2019-08-15 11:21:01 UTC
The Help pages are now displayed in system browser. Is this bug still valid?
Comment 11 V Stuart Foote 2019-08-15 13:35:48 UTC
Navigation of help (on-line or local install) via os browser was only part of the OP issue with reviewing the Help articles.

If any thing it is worse now with issues of bug 118148 linkage to "extended tips" with <F1> or on mouse over or with keyboard navigation not linking to correct article--on-line or local install. But this could be closed for bug 118148 for the <ahelp> impact on a11y.