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Bug 93178 - Add master elements management panel in properties in Impress
Summary: Add master elements management panel in properties in Impress
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
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5.0.0.3 rc
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Reported: 2015-08-06 07:25 UTC by Bastián Díaz
Modified: 2017-09-07 15:16 UTC (History)
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Description Bastián Díaz 2015-08-06 07:25:01 UTC
Hello!. Congratulations on the big release of LibreOffice 5.

It would be very useful to have the management of master elements in Impress through the sidebar. Currently there are basic elements in addition to activating the slide/notes master page, but in the future you can add new placeholders control.

Thanks

Note: please, update screenshots of LO in the website
Comment 1 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-08-09 16:07:01 UTC
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #0)
> It would be very useful to have the management of master elements in Impress
> through the sidebar. Currently there are basic elements in addition to
> activating the slide/notes master page, but in the future you can add new
> placeholders control.

Can you clarify what you mean here? Do you mean that management of which master elements appear in a slide?
Comment 2 Bastián Díaz 2015-08-10 00:17:40 UTC
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #1)
> (In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #0)
> > It would be very useful to have the management of master elements in Impress
> > through the sidebar. Currently there are basic elements in addition to
> > activating the slide/notes master page, but in the future you can add new
> > placeholders control.
> 
> Can you clarify what you mean here? Do you mean that management of which
> master elements appear in a slide?

Yes, that's what I mean. Header, date, footer, and page number are currently supported. However, there is an associated problem, as these items can be modified in normal view, when it is expected to modify them only in master view (slides / notes).
Comment 3 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-08-11 16:25:49 UTC
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #2)
> (In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #1)
> > Can you clarify what you mean here? Do you mean that management of which
> > master elements appear in a slide?
> 
> Yes, that's what I mean. Header, date, footer, and page number are currently
> supported. However, there is an associated problem, as these items can be
> modified in normal view, when it is expected to modify them only in master
> view (slides / notes).

As part of bug 89466, 'Display Objects from Master' and 'Display Background from Master' checkboxes are coming to the sidebar. About the associate problem you mentioned, i believe master view is for positioning of the various master elements and normal view is for where they can be modified.
Comment 4 Bastián Díaz 2015-08-29 16:47:24 UTC
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #3)
> 
> As part of bug 89466, 'Display Objects from Master' and 'Display Background
> from Master' checkboxes are coming to the sidebar. 

Yes. It's the same central idea, which I think is a duplicate bug report.

About the associate
> problem you mentioned, i believe master view is for positioning of the
> various master elements and normal view is for where they can be modified.

Yes. I agree and I think there is a problem. According to their logic normal view is to modify the elements, but the "date", "Footer" and "page number" can not be formatted in the normal view.

- If I need to change for these three elements I use styles (modifies the three elements with the same characteristics).
- If I need a font size, font color or and different font per elemento, I have to modify the master view (the changes are made for all slides occupy the master page).
- I can not enter text or custom fields from normal view. Eg footer can be used to describe bibliographic sources legend image, diagram, chart, subtitle, etc. (can be done from "Insert|Header and Footer" entering text per slide, but is unintuitive).

Other office suits, show these objects (date, footer, and page number) as another placeholder, which delivers more dynamism to the user to use these elements.

cheers
Comment 5 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-08-31 00:57:17 UTC
(In reply to Bastián Díaz from comment #4)
> Yes. I agree and I think there is a problem. According to their logic normal
> view is to modify the elements, but the "date", "Footer" and "page number"
> can not be formatted in the normal view.

I guess i forgot to mention that master view is also for formatting. If you'd like to format these elements within the slide, then you can insert fields like Insert > Field > Page Number.

> Other office suits, show these objects (date, footer, and page number) as
> another placeholder, which delivers more dynamism to the user to use these
> elements.

Maybe you should submit a enhancement request to make these objects style editable per slide similar to title and object textboxes are.
Comment 6 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2016-08-25 05:39:24 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2017-08-21 14:20:33 UTC
Disagree with the idea to add rarely used properties to the sidebar in general. It's not a big deal to open a dialog after creating a new presentation but it's always an annoyance to scroll over inappropriate properties in the sidebar.

However, we better discuss this topic and what's left to do in the design meeting.
Comment 8 Cor Nouws 2017-08-31 12:52:34 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> Disagree with the idea to add rarely used properties to the sidebar in
> general. It's not a big deal to open a dialog after creating a new
> presentation but it's always an annoyance to scroll over inappropriate
> properties in the sidebar.

+1
Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2017-09-07 15:16:18 UTC
The topic was discussed in the design meeting. There is no good reason to have access to everything in the sidebar, actually only the frequently used properties are accessible from this control. Properties of master slides are supposed to be modified rarely once per session. So the decision is to tag this as WF.