Bug 98572 - Demote and Promote backwards
Summary: Demote and Promote backwards
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Reported: 2016-03-10 02:43 UTC by jakevossen5
Modified: 2016-05-23 15:31 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Screenshot of reverse promote (245.15 KB, image/png)
2016-03-18 19:12 UTC, jakevossen5
Details
Screenshot of reverse demote (215.87 KB, image/png)
2016-03-18 19:13 UTC, jakevossen5
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Description jakevossen5 2016-03-10 02:43:58 UTC
While in numbering, the promote buttons and their icons seem to be backwards. The demote is on the right arrow, which should be promote(moving the indentation up one), where as the arrow that shows it going to the left says promote
Comment 1 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2016-03-14 08:19:39 UTC
Please attach a screenshot and let us know about the version of LibreOffice that you’re using.
Comment 2 jakevossen5 2016-03-18 19:12:33 UTC
Created attachment 123700 [details]
Screenshot of reverse promote
Comment 3 jakevossen5 2016-03-18 19:13:03 UTC
Created attachment 123701 [details]
Screenshot of reverse demote
Comment 4 jakevossen5 2016-03-18 19:14:08 UTC
Unless I am mistaken, these should be reversed so that the promote is the forward arrow, and pushes the line indentation in. I'm on build 4.4.4.3
Comment 5 jakevossen5 2016-05-22 18:09:41 UTC
Also noticed this on build 5.1.3.2 on my Arch Linux install
Comment 6 V Stuart Foote 2016-05-22 21:23:34 UTC
No, they have the correct function assigned as defined:
   https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Demote_One_Level
   https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Promote_One_Level

Additionally for 5.2 master builds, the buttons *have* been repositioned on the Bullets & Numbering toolbar to place the more common demote actions in front of the promote actions.
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2016-05-22 21:25:22 UTC
Should have added, in this context. Demote means increase the indent, while Promote means to decrease the indent.
Comment 8 jakevossen5 2016-05-23 15:00:17 UTC
I would have thought promote would have increased the indent, where demote would have lessened the indent. 

Maybe it would be more intuitive to have "Increase indent level" and "Decrease indent level"
Comment 9 V Stuart Foote 2016-05-23 15:28:16 UTC
(In reply to jakevossen5 from comment #8)
> I would have thought promote would have increased the indent, where demote
> would have lessened the indent. 
> 
> Maybe it would be more intuitive to have "Increase indent level" and
> "Decrease indent level"

Demote and Promote are pretty routinely used in this context of rank within a hierarchy. That is our use here.

And, theoretically, you could have styles assigned to the various heading, numbering and bulleting that don't physically increase or decrease the indenting in following the promote or demote actions.

Believe UI and labeling is correct as is, so Not a Bug, and would move to resolve Wont Fix any suggestion to change.

But, out for broader UX comment.