Replacing a dll (libeay32.dll) in my GnuWin32 bin directory (which is in the search path) I found out that it was in use by soffice.bin. LibreOffice comes with its own libeay32.dll in <Installdir>/program, but that is not used.
My system is a german WinXP Pro SP3, but this should happen on almost all newer Windows versions beginning with XP SP2, because:
On newer Windows Microsoft introduced the "safe DLL search mode" (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms682586%28v=vs.85%29.aspx), which is ON by default on everything newer than XP SP1, and this puts the local directory later in the search path to circumvent certain security concerns especially with web servers. For local programs to be able to load their own DLLs they have to issue a SetDllDirectory call (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms686203(v=vs.85).aspx) before loading the dynamic libraries. soffice.bin seems not to do so, however it should.
There is a (severe?) security issue connected: when an attacker successfully places a rogue dll anywhere in the default dll search path (or adds the directory with his rogue dll to this path before soffice starts), soffice will happily load the attackers dll and not its own safe version.
Hi Tor: please have a look at the last paragraph of the description, I guess it will of interest for you.
Best regards. JBF
If you let attackers place rogue DLLs in arbitrary places on your system, then indeed you have a security problem.
That said, I *am* surprised by the claim that soffice.bin would pick up DLLs it needs from locations in PATH in preference to the one in the "program" subdirectory. That hardly can be the intention. Either something has broken this, or there is something special in the bug reporter's case that makes it happen.
If I read the web page you pointed to correctly, in all cases the directory from which soffice.bin is loaded is searched first, and that is where our libeay32.dll is located, isn't it? What am I missing?
(In reply to comment #3)
> If I read the web page you pointed to correctly, in all cases the directory
> from which soffice.bin is loaded is searched first, and that is where our
> libeay32.dll is located, isn't it? What am I missing?
Reread the page, and yes, you are right, and I was wrong thinking the cause was there. So I dug a little deeper and found:
I see this happen with 2 DLLs, libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll. They are not loaded from the start, but get loaded when the help browser gets called. With sysinternals' procmon I can see in which directories soffice.bin looks for them. They are:
and then all PATH entries in order (6)
This is exactly the order listed if SafeDllSearchMode is enabled, where we expect:
(1) is the directory from which the application loaded
(5) is the current directory
but, looking at soffice.bin's environment through sysinternals' process explorer, I see still:
the program's path is <installdir>\program\soffice.bin
its current directory is <installdir>\program\
The help browser isn't started in its own process but as a thread of soffice.bin (using CreateThreadEx), so the kernel should honor soffice.bin's settings, but somehow it picks the python-core/lib directory as application load dir (because _ssl.pyd loads from there?) and URE\bin as current dir (?).
It looks as if the kernel is not doing what it should according to MS' definitions, but somehow I feel the culprit might as well be with LibreOffice tricking some environment settings when loading the help browser?
facing this kind of problem
- old (incompatible) versions of libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll are located in windows/system32
- correct dlls are in <libro>/program
- using Libro python
- import ssl fails on importing _ssl
--> exploring with depends.exe, the 2 old dll are loaded from windows/system32
copying the 2 dlls located in <libro>/program to <libro>/program/python-core-3.3.3/lib where the file _ssl.pyd is located
all is fine, the correct ddl are used (as they are in the same directory than there caller)
I tried to play with manifest files, with no success
Not talking about security issue, this DLL hell may brake ssl support for python libreoffice binding (and other things ?)
Any admissible suggestion to work on ?
- manually duplicating the dll in <libro>/program/python-core-3.3.3/lib is an emergency hack but should not be used indefinitelly
- manifest file (despite i did not success) could maybe solve the problem, but WinXP seems to have some restrictions (searches for manifest and files in the directory caller, the _ssl.pyd) --> back to step 2
- any building strategy on ssl support for python ?
any strategy, hint, code pointers welcommed
So there are lots of related complexities here.
(1) One of them is that our primary DLL's are in at least two folders -
(2) Another is that python is calling the WINAPI method SetDllDirectory, which modifies the DLL search path.
In theory, we could fix (1) simply by change the assignments to LIBO_URE_* for Windows in configure.ac.
We already merge these folders on OSX.
We can partially fix this problem by renaming our SSL DLL's so that we don't pick similarly named DLL's from other places.
I suspect that we could fix it properly by doing two things
(1) Combine URE\bin into \program
(2) Use DLL redirection to enforce loading from our application folder first:
(In reply to Noel Grandin from comment #6)
> (1) Combine URE\bin into \program
I'll likely do that, for all remaining platforms, for LO 4.5.
i'll try to rename these 2 dll's
(In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #7)
> (In reply to Noel Grandin from comment #6)
> > (1) Combine URE\bin into \program
> I'll likely do that, for all remaining platforms, for LO 4.5.
done a while ago
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Checked with Libreoffice 188.8.131.52 64bit on Windows 10 Pro and 184.108.40.206 on Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit: both loaded libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from <installdir>\program without searching other paths, not when starting the help browser, but when checking for updates. So I think this issue is solved.