Bug 48644 - TDF Site: There is No Longer a Link to 3.4.x version download In Conflict with Published Policy
Summary: TDF Site: There is No Longer a Link to 3.4.x version download In Conflict wit...
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Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: WWW (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Hardware: Other All
: medium major
Assignee: Not Assigned
Whiteboard: BSA
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Reported: 2012-04-13 05:14 UTC by Vaughn Reid III
Modified: 2013-05-30 12:33 UTC (History)
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Description Vaughn Reid III 2012-04-13 05:14:10 UTC
Problem description:

There appears to no longer be a download link to the 3.4.x LibreOffice release at this location:  https://www.libreoffice.org/download/

This seems to be in conflict with the stated policy listed here:  https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/ 

Steps to reproduce:
1. Navigate to https://www.libreoffice.org/download/
2. Notice there is no link to download 3.4.x release
3. Navigate to https://www.libreoffice.org/release-policy/
4. Notice that 3.4.x seems like it should be available for download after reading the release policy page information

Current behavior:
No link appears to be available to download LibreOffice 3.4.x

Expected behavior:
There should be an easy to use Link on the download page to download both the current 3.5.x version of LibreOffice and the more stable 3.4.x version.

Platform (if different from the browser): 
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/11.0
Comment 1 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-06-25 23:54:46 UTC
So it is
Comment 2 Christian Lohmaier 2012-06-27 03:18:28 UTC
3.4.6 isn't offered since it has a possible security bug that is not fixed in that version. Although unlikely to be exploitable it was decided to not offer the download anymore from the homepage.

If you want to download it nevertheless, you can obtain it from the downloadserver:


3.4.6 isn't anywhere "more stable" than 3.5.4. While this might apply to the .0 and .1 releases, the later ones can be considered ready-to-be-deployed.

resolving worksforme as it is the desired behavior (from the view of those running the website at least :-)) 

The policy still holds true - as long as both branches are in active development, both will be offered. but 3.4.6 was/is the last planned release of the 3.4 series

Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-06-27 04:10:29 UTC
Hm, my main "Problem" is that we Have <http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-4-new-features-and-fixes/>, but no way to download the praised Version.

And it's not only a question of "stability", my 3.5.4 Statistics stated:
"With 3.5 until 3.5.2 we introduced 160 valid new regression bugs, 76 of them have been fixed in between, 58 of them definitively for 3.5.   
That means we still have more than 80 unfixed 3.5. Regressoin bugs. I think that's too much, I still dream of “80% regressions fixed with Version after next one".

I for example still can't use DRAW of 3.5 (or later) because of several regressions, what would make 3.5 completely unusable for an average user with my needs.

So we would have needed a 3.4.7 with security fix.
Comment 4 Vaughn Reid III 2012-06-27 04:17:45 UTC
If removing download links to 3.4.x is the desired behavior, then I see a policy mis-match.

It is my understanding from reading release policy notes that there should be 2 release versions available for easy download.  


I also remember reading in a couple locations on the web site -- although I couldn't find those locations this morning -- that the idea behind having 2 current releases was to provide a more conservative and stable release for slower moving business usage environments and to have a less stable bleeding edge version for enthusiasts, early adopters, etc.  This multi-tiered release cycle is mentioned here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria.

Since the stated release policy and state release criteria mention providing multiple versions available for download, it seems reasonable that the two primary release versions should be available for download from the "Download" page.  A person who wants to use the older release -- which, by policy, should be the more stable release -- should not have to go digging around the web site to look for it.

In addition, since both 3.4 and 3.5 are mentioned prominently on the web site with both a 3.4 Features page and a 3.5 Features page, it seems that common sense would dictate that both versions would be easily download-able from links on the download page.

Once a stable 3.6.x release is available will easy to get to links to 3.5.x go away?  If the answer is yes, then the release policy and release criteria should be changed to reflect that reality and the layout of the web site should change to remove references to the previous version.

If, however, Libre Office wants to follow its own release policy and release criteria, it should make it easy to download both currently supported versions from the download page.
Comment 5 retired 2013-05-30 12:33:20 UTC
Vaughn: The current situation with https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ displaying the latest release and e.g. https://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=mac-x86&lang=de have both versions to choose from is indeed intentional and not in conflict with the release policy stated on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/.

LO tries to provide an easy non cluttered webpage that does not overwhelm the users with too much info. That does not mean that more details can't be found, but they are on sub-pages. So in the case of the download that means you simply have to click the "Change System, Version or Language" link on https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and you'll find what you need.

Thus setting to WONTFIX.