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Bug 72940 - VIEWING: Interpunct takes up negative space
Summary: VIEWING: Interpunct takes up negative space
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: graphics stack (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: Other Linux (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
Whiteboard: BSA target:5.3.0
Depends on: HarfBuzz
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Reported: 2013-12-21 00:28 UTC by hansoa2
Modified: 2016-11-06 18:37 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Working Document (7.85 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2013-12-21 01:57 UTC, Joel Madero
Fonts that display inter‧punct strangely (9.28 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2013-12-21 03:38 UTC, hansoa2
Matches what I see in inter‧punct.odt . (21.05 KB, application/pdf)
2013-12-21 03:39 UTC, hansoa2
The same problem in (61.42 KB, image/png)
2013-12-30 19:40 UTC, hansoa2

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Description hansoa2 2013-12-21 00:28:26 UTC
Problem description: 
Text containing this (‧) symbol is not properly spaced.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Copy this text into a document: "inter‧punct".

Current behavior:
It looks like "inteXunt" where X is a combination of r, ‧, and p.

Expected behavior:
It looks like "inter‧punct".

Operating System: Fedora
Version: release
Comment 1 Joel Madero 2013-12-21 01:57:13 UTC
Looks fine for me. Attached is my document showing this.

What font are you using by default, also did this happen in previous releases?

Marking as NEEDINFO, once you answer previous question, try other fonts, attach a document that you make and a corresponding PDF mark as UNCONFIRMED and we'll go from there.
Comment 2 Joel Madero 2013-12-21 01:57:45 UTC
Created attachment 91068 [details]
Working Document

Ubuntu 13.10
Comment 3 hansoa2 2013-12-21 03:38:00 UTC
Created attachment 91071 [details]
Fonts that display inter‧punct strangely

Shows two fonts (Liberation Serif and DejaVu Serif) where inter‧punct displays strangely.
Comment 4 hansoa2 2013-12-21 03:39:08 UTC
Created attachment 91072 [details]
Matches what I see in inter‧punct.odt .
Comment 5 hansoa2 2013-12-21 03:46:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Looks fine for me. Attached is my document showing this.
> What font are you using by default, also did this happen in previous
> releases?
> Marking as NEEDINFO, once you answer previous question, try other fonts,
> attach a document that you make and a corresponding PDF mark as UNCONFIRMED
> and we'll go from there.

I use Liberation Serif by default. This happened in my old version (the one used on Fedora 17) as well.
Comment 6 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2013-12-21 15:32:59 UTC
Not reproducible for me on Ubuntu 13.10 x86-64 with versions 4.0.6, 4.1.4 (both generic Linux version built by TDF) and (home built).
I can suggest you two things:

1/ re-initialize your LibreOffice user profile :

2/ I guess the problem is on the Fedora side, not on the LibreOffice one. So you should try the generic Linux version from

Best regards. JBF
Comment 7 hansoa2 2013-12-21 18:04:45 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)

I did both of those and found no difference. I thought it might just be the fonts but setting Kate to use either of them shows no effect.

This is a fresh install of Fedora 20. Not sure what else I can do.
Comment 8 Joel Madero 2013-12-21 18:53:42 UTC
This is really weird - opening your odt looks fine for me but I can clearly see the issue with your pdf.

So next thing to test:

If you can try installing 4.2 rc1 and see if you see the problem there that'll be helpful.
Comment 9 Khaled Hosny 2013-12-22 00:04:58 UTC
I can’t reproduce this either, with both and master.
Comment 10 retired 2013-12-23 13:25:25 UTC
Please re-try with

Setting to NEEDINFO until more detail is provided.

After providing the requested info, please reset this bug to UNCONFIRMED. Thanks :)
Comment 11 hansoa2 2013-12-30 19:40:21 UTC
Created attachment 91343 [details]
The same problem in
Comment 12 Khaled Hosny 2013-12-30 20:33:08 UTC
This looks like a Fedora-specific issue (a broken font propably), please report this to Fedora bug tracker, my be they would have better luck reproducing this. Also what happens if you try the same string and font in other applications?
Comment 13 Khaled Hosny 2013-12-30 20:57:05 UTC
OK, I can reproduce this now. It seems be related to Graphite fonts.

Both Liberation Serif and DejaVu Serif do not have the middle dot character, so a fallback font is used and in your system this happens to be Abyssinica SIL (which is a hyprid OpenType/Graphite font), and on my system I get the same effect when Linux Libertine G (which is a Graphite font) is used.

So it seems something is broken in the font fallback layout path with Graphite fonts.
Comment 14 QA Administrators 2015-04-19 03:22:27 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 15 QA Administrators 2016-09-20 09:24:52 UTC
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