Bug 88370 - Hebrew Smart Quotes Behaviour Complex and Unconfigurable
Summary: Hebrew Smart Quotes Behaviour Complex and Unconfigurable
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) Master
Hardware: x86 (IA32) Linux (All)
: low normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
Depends on:
Blocks: AutoCorrect-Complete
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Reported: 2015-01-13 14:21 UTC by Amir Adar
Modified: 2020-09-22 03:59 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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2015-01-13 14:23 UTC, Amir Adar

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Description Amir Adar 2015-01-13 14:21:59 UTC

* LibreOffice (master) with Hebrew (CTL) support

* Smart quotes are on (check the checkbox in Tools > AutoCorrect Options... > Localised Options > Double Quotes > Replace).

* Linux Mint 17.1, 32-bit


1. Create a new file.

2. Type a Hebrew sentence in quotes, without a full stop at the end (example: “האיש הולך הביתה").

3. Type another Hebrew sentence in quotes, with a full stop at the end (example: “האיש הולך לעבודה.”).

Expected Result:

In both cases, the quotation marks enclosing the Hebrew sentences should be curved according to the symbols picked in AutoCorrect options.

Actual Result:

In the first case, the last quote is not replaced with a curved quote, but remains as a “Gershayim” sign. In the second case, the quotes are both replaced correctly.

I believe the reason is that in Hebrew, Gershayim is used inside of acronyms (such as מנכ"ל, פלמ"ח), and that LibreOffice interprets placing a quote directly after a letter as necessarily writing an acronym. This behaviour is confusing and does not correspond to any setting invoked by the user. It can be a useful feature, but it has to be handled differently.
Comment 1 Amir Adar 2015-01-13 14:23:08 UTC
Created attachment 112169 [details]
Screenshot of the problem
Comment 2 Urmas 2015-01-13 15:44:05 UTC
What happens when you type some Hebrew letters before the quoted phrase?
Comment 3 Amir Adar 2015-01-13 16:25:39 UTC
When entering text before the quoted phrase, nothing changes. Afterwards, if I delete the first quotation mark and type in another, the "Gershayim" character is used instead of the curved quote.

The "Gershayim" character is also used if I insert Hebrew letters, return to the beginning of the line and type in a quotation mark.
Comment 4 Buovjaga 2015-01-29 17:58:23 UTC

Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version:
Build ID: 784d069cc1d9f1d6e6a4e543a278376ab483d1eb
TinderBox: Win-x86@62-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-01-25_23:07:36
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2016-02-21 08:37:30 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 QA Administrators 2017-03-06 15:52:22 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2020-09-22 03:59:11 UTC
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