Bug 102844 - Tango icons on Windows Taskbar are too similar need redesign for readability at default 16px size
Summary: Tango icons on Windows Taskbar are too similar need redesign for readability ...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Reported: 2016-09-30 06:10 UTC by mark
Modified: 2016-12-10 02:31 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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LibreOffice module entries on Windows taskbar (3.98 KB, image/png)
2016-10-01 03:00 UTC, V Stuart Foote
Details
small 16px icons with default small buttons Windows 8 and later (15.62 KB, image/png)
2016-12-09 14:06 UTC, V Stuart Foote
Details
reasonable 32px icons with non-default buttons Windows 8 and later (27.05 KB, image/png)
2016-12-09 14:08 UTC, V Stuart Foote
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Description mark 2016-09-30 06:10:57 UTC
User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116 Safari/537.36
Build Identifier: Version: 5.2.2.2 Build ID: 8f96e87c890bf8fa77463cd4b640a2312823f3ad

When LO icons are put onto the Win taskbar, they only differ in colour. The icons should be visually distinct (a la Microsoft). They should be more easily distinguishable.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Put LO icons on Windows taskbar.
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Actual Results:  
Icons are easily confused.

Expected Results:  
Icons are visually identifiable.




Reset User Profile?No
Comment 1 V Stuart Foote 2016-10-01 03:00:50 UTC
Created attachment 127755 [details]
LibreOffice module entries on Windows taskbar

The designs icon designs pinned to Windows taskbar are clearly legible--both by color and by our ODF motif document types.

See no advantage to changing.
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2016-10-01 03:06:28 UTC
Given current branding artwork, the icons ODF themed icons pinned to the Windows task bar are easily distinguishable and appropriate for use.

The attached clip shows taskbar pinned instance of Calc, Impress, Writer, Draw and Math formula document respectively.

No reason to change at this point absent rework of the branding art.
Comment 3 Kumāra 2016-12-09 10:21:19 UTC
I agree with V Stuart Foote on the branding art of sticking to the ODF motif. (My brother has a branding company.)

At the same time, OP is pointing to an accessibility issue. As my eyes have weakened through age, it's becoming a strain for me and I believe many others too.

I'm a bit into design myself, and I think a compromise can be made: Stick to the ODF motif, while having icons that are more easily distinguished.

Can we look into the possibility of this?
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2016-12-09 14:05:12 UTC
Disagree, there is no a11y issue--the current Tango icons themed by ODF document type when displayed on Windows taskbar are easily identifiable and are unique both in color but equally in shape [1]. The icons clearly identifies what module is represented.

Rather, the issue for Windows users is that as screen resolution has increased Microsoft has allowed the size of the icons on the task bar to shrink. Also, a default user profile from Windows 8 on it DE enables the "Use small taskbar buttons" setting--where rather than our 32px icons, we get 16px icons.

The default small buttons mode provide a taskbar 30px high. Disabled, the taskbar is 40px high--meaning, that with "Use small taskbar buttons" the Windows DE shifts to labels with our 16px Tango icons, but with buttons from XP and Windows 7 it uses the 32px icons.

Attaching clips of the taskbar at both settings from a 1920x1080 96dpi monitor on Windows 10.

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[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
Comment 5 V Stuart Foote 2016-12-09 14:06:38 UTC
Created attachment 129427 [details]
small 16px icons with default small buttons Windows 8 and later
Comment 6 V Stuart Foote 2016-12-09 14:08:22 UTC
Created attachment 129428 [details]
reasonable 32px icons with non-default buttons Windows 8 and later
Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2016-12-09 17:59:08 UTC
LibreOffice is not planning to change branding, colors or logos. Any input is welcome but the enhancement request is a WONTFIX.

Furthermore I agree with Stuart and Kumāra; we have beautiful and easy to distinguish logos. If we increase the discriminability it results in an unwanted separation of the modules.
Comment 8 Kumāra 2016-12-10 02:31:45 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5)
> Created attachment 129427 [details]
> small 16px icons with default small buttons Windows 8 and later

Agree. It's the small icons, particularly between Writer's and Calc's, that takes more effort to tell apart.

Blue and green are close enough, and indistinguishable for people with some colour-blindness. 

Anyway, to save me the trouble, I've disabled "Use small icons".