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Bug 103714 - UI: Missing control to set a template as default in Template Manager/Selector
Summary: UI: Missing control to set a template as default in Template Manager/Selector
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.2.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Template-Manager
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Reported: 2016-11-04 20:21 UTC by Harald Koester
Modified: 2017-09-26 15:35 UTC (History)
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Description Harald Koester 2016-11-04 20:21:32 UTC
Description:
Generally I think that there should be always obvious possibilities to start functions in LibreOffice. For me that means that there are visible items on the user interface, so that also less experienced users can find these functions. Visible items are usually classical menus, icons or buttons. For a function at least one these items should exist before a non-visible possibility is realized. Non-visible possibilities are e.g. context menus or short cuts. 

In the Template Manager not all functions can be started with visible items. This is the current situation for the basic functions of the template manager: 

(a) Open new document with template: Only possible via context menu. Expected: Also visible possibility.
(b) Edit template: Only possible via context menu. Expected: Also visible possibility.
(c) Rename template: Only possible via context menu. Expected: Also visible possibility.
(d) Delete template: Only possible with context menu or short cut (Del). Expected: Also visible possibility.
(e) Move template: With button. OK.
(f) Copy template: Copying of templates is not possible with the Template Manager: Expected: Possible. Rational further down.
(g) Set template as default: Only possible via context menu. Expected: Also visible possibility.
(h) Export and import templates: With buttons. OK.


Some words to the missing function “Copy template”:

I think it's quite usual to create new templates by modifying existing ones. Furthermore I think there are 2 usual and intuitive ways to create these modified templates:

(1) Open existing template > Modify > Save template as new template with different name possibly into a new category. This is currently possible with template manager. OK.

(2) Copy existing template with a different name possibly into a new category > Open and modify new template > Save template. This is currently not possible, because the copy function does not exist within the template manager. Hence expected: Copy function within the template manager.

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Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
Comment 1 Cor Nouws 2016-11-04 21:05:07 UTC
Hi Harald,

Thanks - I set to new. Although I've not been involved in the design, so it might be that the issue gets closed with reasoning.
Also; for the missing copy function, can you please make a new issue?
ciao - Cor
Comment 2 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-11-05 11:50:03 UTC
(In reply to Harald Koester from comment #0)
> Generally I think that there should be always obvious possibilities to start
> functions in LibreOffice. For me that means that there are visible items on
> the user interface, so that also less experienced users can find these
> functions. Visible items are usually classical menus, icons or buttons. For
> a function at least one these items should exist before a non-visible
> possibility is realized. Non-visible possibilities are e.g. context menus or
> short cuts. 

We decided during the redesign to not expose modification functions (edit, rename, delete) by default as less experienced users wont be using these functions.

> (a) Open new document with template: Only possible via context menu.
> Expected: Also visible possibility.

There is a 'Open' button.

> (f) Copy template: Copying of templates is not possible with the Template
> Manager: Expected: Possible. Rational further down.

This isnt needed in the template manager, but if users want to use option (1) to create a modified version of a template, they can do so.

> (g) Set template as default: Only possible via context menu. Expected: Also
> visible possibility.

Yes this was supposed to be exposed by default.
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2017-09-26 15:19:54 UTC
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #2) 
> We decided during the redesign to not expose modification functions (edit,
> rename, delete) by default as less experienced users wont be using these
> functions.

Which is also the reason to set this ticket as WF.
Comment 4 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-09-26 15:35:53 UTC
> Which is also the reason to set this ticket as WF.

Well lets leave this open for the one thing that is worth doing, having a control to set a template as default.