Bug 105727 - language formatting : UK English not present as standard in French UI
Summary: language formatting : UK English not present as standard in French UI
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Linguistic (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.3.4.2 release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2017-02-03 14:57 UTC by Oliver
Modified: 2018-02-19 21:48 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Screenshot with the language lelector opened (93.42 KB, image/png)
2017-08-07 09:14 UTC, Oliver
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Description Oliver 2017-02-03 14:57:59 UTC
I'm working under Windows 7 with a French language setup and a german keyboard. 
When I open a new document in Writer, the standard language is French, which is shown in the information bar at the bottom of the window, in the middle. 
When I click on this to chose a different language I get the following options (first the original French) : 

Allemand (Allemagne)   | German (Germany)
Francais (France)      | French(France)

when not I start typing a few English words, I get the following options : 


Allemand (Allemagne)   | German (Germany)
Anglais (U.S.A.)       | English (U.S.A)
Francais (France)      | French(France)

So I only get the English(US) option. However I live in Europe. 

Even though it is installed, I do not get 
Anglais (Royaume-Uni)  | English(Great Britain)

And even though I chose it every time, it is not sticky. With each new document and need to go into "other languages" and pick out from the long list, the English/English again. 

I have even ticked off en-US in the options of the spellchecking and grammar window. 
Is there any way that I could get English English to show up as a standard choice (without de-installing American English as sometimes I need it) ?

Cheers

Oliver
Comment 1 Dieter 2017-07-11 17:41:23 UTC
If you click on the information bar you can choose "more". Then you have the possibility to choose every language you want. Sometimes the information bar offers me English(UK), but I can't see a system behind it.

Does this solve your problem or answer your question?

Changed bug to NEEDINFO. Please change it back to UNCONFIRMED if your problem is still there.
Comment 2 Oliver 2017-07-20 09:29:20 UTC
Well, not really. To explain the long story much shorter : 

when clicking on the information bar and getting suggestions for the languages, and if English is suggested, it is ALWAYS (U.S.A), to get british english, I always need to click on more and search for it in the long list. 
This might perhaps only be the case in the French language version that I use from LibreOffice. Somewhere deep in the gears of Libreoffice there must be a preferences that says in the French version "if you suggest English, suggest american English" ......
Comment 3 Dieter 2017-07-20 14:59:22 UTC
(In reply to Oliver from comment #2)
> Well, not really. To explain the long story much shorter : 
> 
> when clicking on the information bar and getting suggestions for the
> languages, and if English is suggested, it is ALWAYS (U.S.A), to get british
> english, I always need to click on more and search for it in the long list. 
> This might perhaps only be the case in the French language version that I
> use from LibreOffice. Somewhere deep in the gears of Libreoffice there must
> be a preferences that says in the French version "if you suggest English,
> suggest american English" ......

=> I changed the component to localization and added French UI to the summary.
Comment 4 Oliver 2017-08-07 09:14:16 UTC
Created attachment 135204 [details]
Screenshot with the language lelector opened
Comment 5 Oliver 2017-08-07 09:15:28 UTC
Comment on attachment 135204 [details]
Screenshot with the language lelector opened

OK, I will try again to explain and add a screenshot this time : 
I open a new file from within LibreOffice Libreoffice 5.3.4.2, a French version, a French computer, but I use a German keyboard and thus a German keyboard layout.
The language selector at the bottom/middle will show French as the selected language. Then I write some text in English.  
When I now click on the language selector on the bottom center of the window, I will always get French, German and English (US) as a selection, and never English(UK) . Why ?? I’m in Europe, the likelihood that I need British English and not American English is much higher.
Comment 6 halima 2017-08-08 05:13:53 UTC
Windows 10 x64 with French language setup and French keyboard
LO Version: 5.3.5.2
Build ID: 50d9bf2b0a79cdb85a3814b592608037a682059d
Threads CPU : 4; OS : Windows 6.2; UI Render : GL; Layout Engine: new; 
Locale : en-GB (fr_FR); Calc: group

For my laptop, I had configured to LibreOffice Writer to English (UK). For that, you should go to "Outils" ->"Langues"-> "Pour tout le text" -> "Plus"
Then in "parametres locaux" -> "English (UK)
and in "Linguistique" -> "Langues définies par l'utilisateur" -> choose English (UK) and unclick English (USA)

Hope it helps

Regards,
Comment 7 Oliver 2017-09-21 13:37:35 UTC
Thanks Halima for your proposition : 

concerning the local parameter : for my computer it's French, so i think that this should not have an impact on the english / american story

concerning the "languages defined by the user" : I have already US un-ticked and UK ticked, and still get always the US english proposed, rather than the Uk one. That's why I think the the US one must be coded somwhere ...

Cheers

Oliver
Comment 8 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2018-02-19 21:48:20 UTC
This bug report describes a spell checking issue, so set component to linguistic instead of localization.

I am not sure if the software is smart enough to choose between different variants of English. And I think the French being the language of the UI is not enough to prefer English UK over English US. When I write scientific paper, I generally prefer that LO propose English US to me. 

For me it is not a bug. That said you could file an enhancement request for the language suggestion, if you can suggest a rule to choose between English variants.

Closing as NotABug.

Best regards. JBF