Description: A new document created from template "Resume" has broken layout after being saved to word (2003) format. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Create a new Writer document from a built-in template "Resume" 2. Save the file as .doc (office 2003) 3. Exit writer 4. Open the just saved file - the layout of the file is different if compared with the original template Actual Results: The layout of the file is broken. It doesn't lokk the same as before savingto .doc format Expected Results: The file should look the same after being opened, as it was before saving Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: Windows 10 Pro x64 15063.296 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/58.0.3029.110 Safari/537.36
Confirmed on this version Version: 5.0.6.2 Build ID: 1:5.0.6-0ubuntu1~precise1 Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8) OS: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Created attachment 133689 [details] File just created
Created attachment 133690 [details] File saved and reopened
Created attachment 133757 [details] Resume saved as .doc Note that the template is Resume, not CV. The template has 3 sections. In the doc, they are 6 and some of them slip below the contact infos. Arch Linux 64-bit, KDE Plasma 5 Version: 5.5.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 963137415bcdf3e7a26ce5d258302f4e39e294db CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.11; UI render: default; VCL: kde4; Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); Calc: group Built on May 31st 2017
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The bug is still present in: Version: 6.0.4.2 (x64) Build ID: 9b0d9b32d5dcda91d2f1a96dc04c645c450872bf CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; Locale: ru-RU (ru_RU); Calc: group
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Well, there actually are six or seven sections, because every space in between two sections is actually another section (since MSO doesn't pyramid sections like LO does). So the number of sections isn't a problem. I guess it would have to be proven that MS Word can produce a similar layout using sections. I wouldn't be surprised if it is impossible for MSO to have a section in a column. [I just tried with Word 2003, and a continuous section break takes me out of the column - just like LO did.] So this looks like a limitation of using MS formats. I'd say NOTABUG, although it could be argued that LO shouldn't supply a template design that exports to other formats so poorly - and so take the bug report in that direction.
(In reply to Justin L from comment #8) > I guess it would have to be proven that MS Word can produce a similar layout > using sections. I wouldn't be surprised if it is impossible for MSO to have > a section in a column. [I just tried with Word 2003, and a continuous > section break takes me out of the column - just like LO did.] I tried this with MSO 2013. I am able to create a continuous section break in a column without it disturbing the column structure. Saving as DOCX and DOC preserves the structure.
Created attachment 163446 [details] in-columnContinuousSectionBreak.docx: created by MS Word 2016 I did a bit more review into what LO and Word can do in terms of sections/columns - and they seem to act fairly similar. In LO's resume template, multiple sections are staying in the right column. So how is the template doing it? I tried to reproduce that in LO with just using sections, and was unable to do that. Well, it is doing it through a unique LO capability of specifying columns in the page style - which takes first priority. Then, sections can split that apart into one more set of columns after that. MS Word has NOTHING like that, so on export we turn page-style-columns into a section. As I mentioned in comment 8, and as confirmed by the previous paragraphs, sections alone cannot accomplish this layout. LO's Page styles / columns in page styles is a major departure from the MS way of doing things - so this resume template is impossible to export nicely to non-ODT formats.
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Laurent: thought you might be interested in this one. It could use a re-design so that it can export well into other formats. The ability to look good in MS formats should be a "QA checklist" on templates design I would think. Is there such a checklist documented?
I do reproduce with Version: 24.2.5.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: d6e8b0f3fc6e8af2b00cf4969fd0d2fa45b9a62e CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); UI: fr-FR Calc: threaded
Sections seem used to create 2 subcolumns in the right column. I propose to replace them with tables. Have anyone a better advice?
Created attachment 195820 [details] Proposed modified Resume template This proposition preserves the same design as previous template. It is using three tables on right column to replace sections badly exported to MS Word formats. It works well in A4 and Letter page format. I replaced "Your name" with author's name field. Change: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/171849
@Heiko: this template may also benefit from a complete redesign
(In reply to Laurent Balland from comment #16) > I replaced "Your name" with author's name field. Probably not a good idea? Most installations will have this blank, so it will be "invisible".
Created attachment 196102 [details] Proposed modified Resume template New proposition with "Your Name" preserved
Laurent Balland committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/21c9751b56e3bd238369414cbf25c08fdda9f6c3 tdf#108034 Resume Writer template It will be available in 25.2.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.