Bug 114369 - Label workflow requires simplification
Summary: Label workflow requires simplification
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.0.2.2 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Linux (All)
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
: 114578 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: Labels-BusinessCards
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Reported: 2017-12-09 18:14 UTC by Mike Sapsard
Modified: 2022-01-09 14:04 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Description Mike Sapsard 2017-12-09 18:14:45 UTC
Description:
1) To create labels from a spreadsheet, the spreadsheet must first be exported to csv or dbf. 2) After selecting the (say) dbf file the fields from another database are presented and the required fields must be swapped with them. 3) To suppress blank fields the menu item Insert|Section must be used for reach one.

Why is there not  dedicated labels workflow window that allows any source, selects all fields, has a simple checkbox for suppress empty fields? This is the most complicated thing many users ever want to do. I have introduced many people to LibreOffice, but many have gone back to MS Office at Christmas, when they are doing their Christmas cards.

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Create a spreadsheet with titled label columns
2.Follow instructions to create a label - export to csv or dbf file
3.Create labels and insert sections to suppress blank fields

Actual Results:  
Usually failure when entering sections to suppress blanks.
Reversion to manual editing or using gLabel.

Expected Results:
Much easier process without jumping around the menu.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No


OpenGL enabled: Yes

Additional Info:
See MS Office or gLabel for better workflow.


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0
Comment 1 Buovjaga 2017-12-17 16:54:52 UTC
Yep, it is a bit convoluted. Here is a video tutorial for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8Psg8yxPE
Comment 2 Mike Sapsard 2017-12-17 17:58:19 UTC Comment hidden (no-value)
Comment 3 Buovjaga 2017-12-20 08:21:34 UTC
*** Bug 114578 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 bignintyfan 2017-12-21 01:24:55 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #1)
> Yep, it is a bit convoluted. Here is a video tutorial for reference:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8Psg8yxPE

If it used to do this but no longer does it, this is a bug in current LibreOffice. I attempted the same steps in the video, but was unable to recreate the results in version 5.4.3.2.

I will try again with the latest update, and report back.
Comment 5 bignintyfan 2017-12-21 02:04:12 UTC
(In reply to bignintyfan from comment #4)
> (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #1)
> > Yep, it is a bit convoluted. Here is a video tutorial for reference:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8Psg8yxPE
> 
> If it used to do this but no longer does it, this is a bug in current
> LibreOffice. I attempted the same steps in the video, but was unable to
> recreate the results in version 5.4.3.2.
> 
> I will try again with the latest update, and report back.

I just tried with version 5.4.4.2. It does work correctly; however, only the first entry actually shows up in the document.
Comment 6 Mike Sapsard 2017-12-21 07:02:35 UTC
I suspect that two different things may be confused here. One is labels - many sets of fields on a single sheet of paper. The other is mailmerge - one set of fields on many documents.

I was able to produce a sheet of labels, with a different address on each label. However, I could not omit blank fields.

I have not tried mailmerge.
Comment 7 Mike Sapsard 2020-10-20 10:55:37 UTC
I just used mail merge to address envelopes with LO 7.0.2 in Linux Mint 20. It works perfectly.

It would be improved if the fields displayed using the data immediately hid the blank lines. I thought the 'Don't show blank lines' checkbox had no effect and spent an hour looking for a method of suppressing them.

I decided to print to file as a single file and saw that blank line suppression had been working all the time.
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2021-06-30 07:24:04 UTC
(In reply to Mike Sapsard from comment #7)
> I just used mail merge to address envelopes with LO 7.0.2 in Linux Mint 20.
> It works perfectly. ... saw that blank line suppression had been working all the time.

Great. Resolving this issue as NAB/WF.
Comment 9 Fred Olness 2022-01-09 14:04:28 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #1)
> Yep, it is a bit convoluted. Here is a video tutorial for reference:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8Psg8yxPE

Right, BUT this video does NOT show how to deal with blank lines, which is the KEY POINT!!!