Bug 120434 - Make it easy to edit/amend bullet style presets - or make them at least easily accessible
Summary: Make it easy to edit/amend bullet style presets - or make them at least easil...
Status: RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.0.0.3 release
Hardware: All All
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Reported: 2018-10-08 21:46 UTC by Fred
Modified: 2019-06-08 03:00 UTC (History)
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Description Fred 2018-10-08 21:46:28 UTC
Description:
LO Writer comes with 8 preset bullet styles.  It would be helpful if these defaults could be easily changed by right-clicking or maybe by redefining a bullet 1..8 style.  At the moment it is not only impossible to change the 8 styles (at least not in a manner that I have been able to unearth - tips welcome), but adding a more useful style is also not possible.  Either make the default 8 changeable or allow users to add their own (preferably before the defaults so the user doesn't end up with a need to scroll).

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Enter some text
2. Select bullet style via icon menu
3. Attempt to change its style..
  a - locally: sort of works via "more bullets" selection
  b - document wide like a proper style would: not a chance.  Application of new style is also rather haphazard as there is no clear indication (like, say, a new icon) that indicates what will be applied where.

Actual Results:
1 - user is stuck with built-in styles which are, umm, not always the best options
2 - user may thus end up with 8 wasted locations for their own preferences
3 - user may eventually just give up and revert to Word

Expected Results:
Tried right-clicking, nothing there.  Style menu does not have "bullet 1..8" as a style but should have (most logical place to put it from an UI expectation perspective).  User wastes time fighting defaults which should instead be easily customisable.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



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Comment 1 Dieter 2018-10-11 11:28:43 UTC
Thank you for reporting the bug. It seems you're using an old version of LibreOffice. Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ? I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version. Change to RESOLVED WORKSFORME, if the problem went away.

You also might have a look at the writer guide [1] (see list styles)

[1] https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/writer/
Comment 2 Fred 2018-10-11 15:22:04 UTC
Ah, I selected version as stated in the field description so "earliest version affected", not as "version currently in use", which is 6.1.2.1 (MacOS).  

Small modifier: using the "more bullets" button it is possible to adjust the settings as they are used on the currently highlighted bullet, but there is no way to make it stick or to establish a document wide update as possible with other style elements.
Comment 3 Fred 2018-10-11 15:42:53 UTC
Update: reviewed the Writer Doc (for v6) as well as the momentous "Designing with LibreOffice" - none of them detail a way to customise the 8 defaults, but I have come to realise that the issue is actually wider as this applies to all ..

- bullet lists
- numbered lists
- outline lists

From an UI perspective, it seems logical to right-click on one of the relevant bullet/numbering/outline button and end up in a menu that enables customisation, possibly with the effect that all associated bullet/numbered items/outlines with that specific button get updates as is the case with a text style update.

Hope this clarifies things.  The "more xx" button at the end of the respective menus offers a degree of workaround.
Comment 4 Dieter 2018-10-13 05:05:24 UTC
I'm afraid I still don't understand, because I can customize the default styles:

1. Open List styles in the sidebar of a document
2. Open context menu of a style => modify
3. Modify the style (I changed the numbering style of numbering 123) => O. K.
4. All lists with that style change
Comment 5 Buovjaga 2018-10-31 20:25:09 UTC
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #4)
> I'm afraid I still don't understand, because I can customize the default
> styles:
> 
> 1. Open List styles in the sidebar of a document
> 2. Open context menu of a style => modify
> 3. Modify the style (I changed the numbering style of numbering 123) => O. K.
> 4. All lists with that style change

Fred: can you respond to this?
Comment 6 QA Administrators 2019-05-08 18:25:01 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2019-06-08 03:00:51 UTC
Dear Fred,

Please read this message in its entirety before proceeding.

Your bug report is being closed as INSUFFICIENTDATA due to inactivity and
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