Bug 127287 - Layer dialogue help button
Summary: Layer dialogue help button
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Olivier Hallot
URL:
Whiteboard: target:6.4.0
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Reported: 2019-09-02 12:35 UTC by pedro.silva
Modified: 2019-09-03 21:40 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description pedro.silva 2019-09-02 12:35:32 UTC
Help button goes to URL without any information about why the Layer name is not possible to change etc (default layers). I would like to purpose to add short information regarding Default layers section from page 214 from the book “LibreOffice 4.3 Draw Guide” https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/a/ad/DG43-DrawGuide.pdf
Comment 1 Xisco Faulí 2019-09-02 13:15:16 UTC
Thank you for reporting the bug.
Unfortunately without clear steps to reproduce it, we cannot track down the origin of the problem.
Please provide a clearer set of step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the problem.
I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' once the steps are provided
Comment 2 pedro.silva 2019-09-02 14:33:00 UTC
Thanks Xisco. Steps to reproduce:

0. User tries to understand why some layers are not possible to rename and why some have special behaviours (controls)

1. Access the layer dialogue to try to more info
By double clicking in one of the layers (bottom tabs)

2. Dialogue opens

3. click the "Help" button to find help

url opens https://help.libreoffice.org/[VERSION]/en-US/text/simpress/01/04020000.html?System=UNIX&DbPAR=DRAW#bm_@@nowidget@@

4. There is just layer properties listed but it says nothing about the default layers, disabled named or why they behave different between each other.

I would like to purpose to add short section regarding Default layers section from page 214 from the book “LibreOffice 4.3 Draw Guide” https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/a/ad/DG43-DrawGuide.pdf
Comment 3 Regina Henschel 2019-09-02 16:24:05 UTC
I think, that is already fixed. In current master I see a section "Working with layers", which says, that the default layers cannot be renamed.

A development build including help texts is available from https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86_64@62-TDF/current/ (go to Parent directory for other OS)
You can install it parallel to a productive version. Please have a look, whether content about layer is still missing there.
Comment 4 pedro.silva 2019-09-02 16:47:22 UTC
Thanks Regina, but even after installing master~2019-09-01_22.30.33_LibreOfficeDev_6.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86-64_deb the result seems to be the same. Upon pressing Help the following URL:

https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/sdraw/01/insert_layer.html?System=UNIX&DbPAR=DRAW&HID=modules/sdraw/ui/insertlayer/help#bm_@@nowidget@@

has no info regarding the different default layers and the different behaviours they have.
Comment 5 Regina Henschel 2019-09-02 18:08:28 UTC
For "Insert" this information is not needed. But users should get a hint, that further information is available. I suggest, that a section "Related Topics" is added here, same as it exists on a lot of other pages. Links to "About Layers" (layers -- definition) and "Working with Layers" (layers -- working with) seem appropriate to me.
Comment 6 pedro.silva 2019-09-03 12:43:28 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #5)

I understand and I agree but this is not the case.

When you double press on a layer (any for that matter) it shows the Modify layer dialogue and there is a Help button and even if it's one of the default layers (Layout, Controls, Dimension Lines) there is no info regarding them (tested with latest master build)
Comment 7 Commit Notification 2019-09-03 12:47:17 UTC
Olivier Hallot committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/help/+/88e16d81baaf02dc374725243631c263242fae05%5E%21

tdf#127287 Layer dialogue help button / page
Comment 8 pedro.silva 2019-09-03 14:34:41 UTC
(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #7)
> Olivier Hallot committed a patch related to this issue.
> It has been pushed to "master":
> 
> https://git.libreoffice.org/help/+/
> 88e16d81baaf02dc374725243631c263242fae05%5E%21
> 
> tdf#127287 Layer dialogue help button / page

Thank you Olivier!
Comment 9 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2019-09-03 21:40:43 UTC
TL;DR this issue; can’t judge by either the bug’s or the commit’s titles what’s it about; will assume it’s fixed and close.