Created attachment 154706 [details] Character Dialog 01 Top Master Bottom Proposal Tab Font - Headers are bold Tab Font Effects - make Groups with headers according to HIG - Separate Font Color cause it's not related to something else - Underline, Strickout, Overline is now group Text Decoration (name come from css) - Effects are ONLY checkboxes cause you can't configure something Tab Position - Spacing on top cause it's more often used than Rotate, Position - Rotating and Position have now a similar layout (radio buttons vertical align) Tab Hyperlink - Small Change Events button is align to Browse
Do we add colons to the section headers, eg. "Family:"? Would remove it. Effects and Relief options are mutually exclusive and require either a dropdown as done or radio buttons, which requires to change some lines of code. Font color dropdown is not aligned with any control below, not a big deal though. Raise/Lower and Relative font depend on position Super/Subscript above and could be indented. Not sure about Fit to Line. It changes the scaling in case of rotation... and there is no help (CC Olivier). Events are not related to the target frame so the button shouldn't be right of this input.
Font tab, Font Effects tab, Position tab, Hyperlink tab: very good, I like the changes except the things Heiko mentioned in his comment 1. Effects and Relief options: I find it better to have checkboxes that are greyed out if not available or radio buttons instead of the now available drop-down buttons which makes it hard to see at a glance what options are available for the user.
> - Effects are ONLY checkboxes cause you can't configure something Some are exclusive - e.g. Capitals and Small Capitals can't be combined. Hence the drop down :) > Tab Hyperlink > - Small Change Events button is align to Browse Events is not related to Target Frame. Browse is related to URL. So it cannot be as in the proposal. For the rest.. :\
UX input given, removing the keyword.
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/63051c011bc490fd8a0d2daf91c8258a438f801f tdf#127927 Character Dialog hyperlink tab update It will be available in 6.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Created attachment 155181 [details] Screenshot with the patch applied Looks ugly with the two dropdown triangles. AFAIR, Gülsh fixed a similar issue. Another problem with the dialog are the four checkboxes. They look like related to the control left of it but aren't. At least we should add a section header above and increase the margin to the other section.
Do you have an idea for the checkbox header.
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #7) > Do you have an idea for the checkbox header. Options, Extras, Miscellaneous, Gallimaufry...
Created attachment 155201 [details] Font Effect 02 (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6) > > Another problem with the dialog are the four checkboxes. They look like > related to the control left of it but aren't. At least we should add a > section header above and increase the margin to the other section. The 2 arrow stuff I have to fix, yes but does the layout work like this?
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #2) > Effects and Relief options: I find it better to have checkboxes that are > greyed out if not available or radio buttons instead of the now available > drop-down buttons which makes it hard to see at a glance what options are > available for the user. me too. Should I open a new bug report to get some radio buttons instead of the drop down menus.
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #10) > me too. Should I open a new bug report to get some radio buttons instead of > the drop down menus. Maxim could you change the drop down menus into checkboxes?
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/d04f044f05b4d13c3c6ea3f33fddd9c05a0ab3ad tdf#127927 Character dialog update position tab It will be available in 6.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Created attachment 155323 [details] Font Tab 01 change would be to make Family, Style and size horizontal expandable, so that all three elements get the same focus.
Created attachment 155324 [details] Font Effect 03 Heiko if you like to make radio buttons instead of drop down menu here is the patch to work on: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/81052/ In general I would say that it will also work with the dropdown menus cause Outline and Shadow are related to Relief. However Heiko it would be a pleasure if you can finish the task.
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/436100ba320c1835eb6d5eeab838bbf669c3300a tdf#127927 Character Dialog effect tab update It will be available in 6.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
What about emphasis mark and position options in the Font Effects tab?
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/94afefe6ba1bec3285cce6dc567ed2f6f70725a8 tdf#127927 Writer Character Dialog Font Tab update It will be available in 6.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/52d0027332ecd9ea9d941113c7fbe66ebc3cf48a tdf#127927 Character Dialog effect preview Alignment It will be available in 6.5.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "libreoffice-6-4": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/35a55533728fb3ee5746ef8f9f45762164f03902 tdf#127927 Character Dialog effect preview Alignment It will be available in 6.4.0.1. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Summary: comment 9 and 10/11 are open. Changes since 2019: The "Blinking" checkbox is gone, now there are 3 checkboxes. The "Hidden" checkbox should go to the left where the "Blinking" checkbox was in the past.
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