Bug 130234 - Themes, feedback and tabulators - and nobody cares!
Summary: Themes, feedback and tabulators - and nobody cares!
Status: RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
6.0.7.3 release
Hardware: All Linux (All)
: medium enhancement
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Reported: 2020-01-27 20:32 UTC by temporary-because-its-needed-stupid
Modified: 2020-10-29 04:33 UTC (History)
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Description temporary-because-its-needed-stupid 2020-01-27 20:32:50 UTC
Description:
1. LibreOffice has white text on white background (so no visible items in the menus) if main theme of Linux is changed to something dark before LO is installed.
2. There is still no possibility for generating feedback WITHOUT creating an account. As my email address is also very personal, this is against German law!
3. LO still doesn't allow for REAL tabulators. If you must know the difference: REAL tabulators can be generated without destroying the whole layout. The ones on the left are not removed because I create a new one. And real tabulators are not bound to a single paragraph or template. In MS Word I can use this funny key to get a tabulator. No matter in which paragraph I am, this tabulator is always in the same place. In LO, although the whole document has the same template, just with numbered lists, this tabulator is always on another place. There is no possibility to get a tabulator that is always at the same place, no matter at which part of the document I am.

You are forgetting that we Linux users fight against Microsoft. There can't be many of us if the only usable office suite is not developing further. It's all the same for me if it all looks like Win95. But it has to function as if it was made in 2020 and not 1995.
And no, I can't program. At least nothing than can be used on a Linux system. That's why I use this way to get my opinion out.

And because LO is missing this tabulator feature, I really will have to start my MS computer and install Office 2010 again. LO is not usable for academic work. I love my Linux. But I still could not find any alternative for MS Word. And I can't remember Office 95 being so different. MS uses the same office suite for 20 years. It just looks better, uses up more space and doesn't function on older computers anymore.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install a derivate of Ubuntu, Debian or whatever where LO isn't shipped with, choose a dark theme, install LO, get a complete white LO (or something that looks like complete white on modern displays)
2. Try to set a tabulator that will be on the same place (e.g. 10,5cm from the left site of a page) in a document with 100 pages or more, with more than 20 templates without wasting more than 5 minutes. It doesn't matter if you waste this time before actually writing the document or after (there were really undfriendly people in the forums, insulting someone because they thought he was too stupid to set a simple tabulator, because he should have done that before the document was written - but they didn't tell how this could be easier).
If you really get this done, publish it on your blog, on LinkedIn or wherever you have an account and it can be easily found!


Actual Results:
1. A white LO
2. Tabulators that act with a paragraph, not the page. And it has to be set in every single template/paragraph.

Expected Results:
1. LO should have the same colors as Linux. It is a fork of Open Office, isn't it? So it is primarily programmed for Linux? Then it should behave like it was a Linux application on Linux.
2. Set a tabulator in the page settings so it would be available in the whole document, at the same place on every page


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes



Additional Info:
Version: 6.0.7.3
Build-ID: 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.10
CPU-Threads: 4; BS: Linux 5.3; UI-Render: Standard; VCL: kde4; 
Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group

Don't try to contact me. It's only feedback.
It is very easy today to create an acccount anywhere. Just deleting it can be much harder. And I can't see a way to delete this one. This is why I used a temporary email address.
I already have too many accounts everywhere on the web. I don't need another.
Comment 1 Dieter 2020-01-28 07:05:33 UTC
Thank you for reporting the bug. Please don't mix two issues (white text on white background and tabulator) in one bug report. Please focus on one issue and open a new report for the second issue.

Issue 1:
Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ? I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version. Change to RESOLVED WORKSFORME, if the problem went away.

Issue 2:
Just for clarification: You propose to define tabulators in page style. Is that right?
Comment 2 Dominik Kopp 2020-03-31 21:47:42 UTC
(In reply to Dieter from comment #1)
> Issue 2:
> Just for clarification: You propose to define tabulators in page style. Is
> that right?
Simple workaround: Add a tab to paragraph style "default style". Then you have your tabulator on every page.
Comment 3 QA Administrators 2020-09-28 03:56:04 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 QA Administrators 2020-10-29 04:33:12 UTC
Dear temporary-because-its-needed-stupid,

Please read this message in its entirety before proceeding.

Your bug report is being closed as INSUFFICIENTDATA due to inactivity and
a lack of information which is needed in order to accurately
reproduce and confirm the problem. We encourage you to retest
your bug against the latest release. If the issue is still
present in the latest stable release, we need the following
information (please ignore any that you've already provided):

a) Provide details of your system including your operating
   system and the latest version of LibreOffice that you have
   confirmed the bug to be present

b) Provide easy to reproduce steps – the simpler the better

c) Provide any test case(s) which will help us confirm the problem

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Once all of this is done, please set the bug back to UNCONFIRMED
and we will attempt to reproduce the issue. Please do not:

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