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Bug 130646 - HYPERLINK DIALOG: Simplification of Hyperlink Process
Summary: HYPERLINK DIALOG: Simplification of Hyperlink Process
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Bookmarks Hyperlink-Dialog
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Reported: 2020-02-13 23:25 UTC by Dr. Frank P Ferraro
Modified: 2020-02-19 20:45 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Dr. Frank P Ferraro 2020-02-13 23:25:30 UTC
There needs to be a simplified method of inserting hyperlinks into a document using bookmarked segments of the document.

Steps to Reproduce:
I use Writer for creating LARGE documents and need the option of putting hyperlinks into the document to enable referencing of terminology which may be obscure to or forgotten by the reader.  That is I link technical words with their prior definitions or explanations in the same document.  

There should be a FASTER way to open the hyperlink entry system and get to the bookmarks than exists now.  To enter a hyperlink NOW from one part of a document to another you first must set up a bookmark to link to from the word you want to define or clarify.  Then you have to OPEN the hyperlink dialogues with CTRL-K then TAB backward 2 times then cursor down 2 times and then tab forward 4 times and then hit space to open the bookmark menu.  If you have say 100 bookmarks it is very awkward to do this and then have to scroll slowly down the list to find the one you want to link to.  Then you have to press enter and then ALT C then Alt O 2 times to exit the area back to the document.  This should be MUCH simpler to accomplish.  In addition in using this system it is tedious to have to scroll through a LONG list of BOOKMARKS to find the one to link to.  A search option in this area would be amazingly helpful. 

The configuration options for hyperlinks and bookmarks could use some clarification as well.  It took me forever to understand that you have to set up the proper styles and make sure the headings and content styles match then check to make sure the link looks the way you want it to when it is entered.  

Actual Results:
The process works but is exceedingly tedious.

Expected Results:
Hot Keys to set up a hyperlink might be the answer and a search option in the bookmark selection area.

Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
The instructions in the help bundle are obscure in this area as well.
Comment 1 Dieter 2020-02-14 07:42:34 UTC
(In reply to Dr. Frank P Ferraro from comment #0)
> There should be a FASTER way to open the hyperlink entry system and get to
> the bookmarks than exists now.

Ypu simply can enter the name of an existing bookmark in the dialog. So improvement could be to have an autocomplete in this field. Would this solve your problem?

cc: Design Team
Comment 2 Dr. Frank P Ferraro 2020-02-14 11:46:40 UTC
That would work for a short list of bookmarks in a document but as the list grows it becomes harder to "remember" the exact name used for the bookmark in the first place.

Allowing the user to access the bookmark LIST in a more convenient fashion and then have a search function might be the answer.  One of the problems I see is that in order to access the insertion of bookmarks you either have to use a number of key strokes or take your hands off the keyboard and use the mouse which is very inconvenient when trying to edit and type things into a document.  A direct option to access in document bookmarks for hyperlinks would be very convenient, as I was thinking a HOT KEY combo to put you in the dialogue directly.

The Autocomplete might be effective as I think about it but would have to try it to see how effective it would be.
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2020-02-19 07:14:19 UTC
Thinking about a glossary dialog similar to a bibliography. Or is this totally wrong? 

The hyperlink dialog is more or less simple, we should improve the summary.
Comment 4 Dr. Frank P Ferraro 2020-02-19 20:45:18 UTC
The problem as stated in the initial part of this entry is that it is difficult to find the bookmark that is desired to connect a hyperlink to IF THE NUMBER OF BOOKMARKS IN THE DOCUMENT IS LARGE.  The idea of an autocomplete would possibly work but I think maybe a search of the list would work better.  There is no way to determine whether it would work unless it were implemented and tried.

I have listed the number of key strokes needed to access the list of bookmarks to choose one to hyperlink to and then the problem is selecting the one you want.  If the list is large it is tedious to find what you want.  

Another THOUGHT is that maybe it would be much easier if the bookmark list was not arranged according to placement in the document but according to alphabetic listing.  Then it would be easier to find the one desired.  As it is the bookmarks in the selection list are arranged according to page number placement in the document and this makes it very difficult to find what you want to link to.

I hope this clarifies the issue a bit.
thanks for reading and commenting