Bug 137336 - ENHANCEMENT Saving styles as open format
Summary: ENHANCEMENT Saving styles as open format
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.1.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Reported: 2020-10-08 12:32 UTC by Vegard Fjeldberg
Modified: 2020-11-19 12:34 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Vegard Fjeldberg 2020-10-08 12:32:06 UTC
Description:
It is currently inconvinient to manage styles. I like to use a custom style in LibreOffice Writer. I use this style accross documents. There are two ways that I am currently doing so: 

1. Open an existing document with the preferred style. Save as title of new document. Erease everything. Start typing. 
2. New document. Import style. Select .odt document you want to import from.

#1 is very unintuitive, but does the job. It becomes even less intuitive if you figure you want to change the style in the middle of writing. 
#2 is unintuitive because you often don't associate a style with a document. It also takes a lot of time to navigate. And it is incompatible with .docx which is my preferred format. 

You can't preview a style. You can't switch back and forth between them. It's an incredibly inflexible system that needs improvement. 


I suggest to implement a feature to save styles in an open format. I believe this would empower the user, the developer and the LibreOffice project. 

Users can share fonts with eachother easily. The process of selecting custom sytles becomes more intuitive. It's much easier to implement style management.  

Developers can use the styles in their own projects who use some word processing. Developers can create font management software to empower document management even further. 

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Not a bug, an enhancement. 
2.Not a bug, an enhancement. 
3.Not a bug, an enhancement. 

Actual Results:
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Expected Results:
Not a bug, an enhancement. 


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Not a bug, an enhancement.
Comment 1 Dieter 2020-10-08 14:36:30 UTC
Vegard, I think there is also a third way: Working with templates. And as far as I understand you enhancement request, this might cover your needs. 

Does this information solve your problem? => NEEDINFO
Comment 2 Vegard Fjeldberg 2020-10-08 14:58:54 UTC
I'm not sure if we are on the same page here. I'm asking for a method that makes it easy to use custom style. If I use templates, I don't get to use my own styles. I have to use yours. I mean, I guess it is possible to change these styles going into setting files so that all my future documents use this style. But it shouldn't be that hard for the users to create their own custom styles. It should be intuitive. LibreOffice is supposed to be a general purpose document management software. 

Maybe the way I present a solution isn't appropriate, but at least I have demonstrated why managing custom styles are terrible right now.
Comment 3 Dieter 2020-10-08 17:20:15 UTC
(In reply to Vegard Fjeldberg from comment #2)
> I'm not sure if we are on the same page here. I'm asking for a method that
> makes it easy to use custom style. If I use templates, I don't get to use my
> own styles. I have to use yours.

That's not true. You can create templates with your own style.

> I mean, I guess it is possible to change
> these styles going into setting files so that all my future documents use
> this style. But it shouldn't be that hard for the users to create their own
> custom styles. It should be intuitive. LibreOffice is supposed to be a
> general purpose document management software. 

Perhaps I haven't grasped your idea and how do you want to manage styles.
Comment 4 Vegard Fjeldberg 2020-10-08 17:23:12 UTC
Never mind then.
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2020-10-09 04:18:19 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2020-11-19 12:34:41 UTC
Dieter describes the solution: put everything you want into the styles, have an empty document or some placeholder text, save this as template, and start new documents from there (conveniently after setting it as default).