Bug 141161 - A method to drag an object without moving its anchor is needed
Summary: A method to drag an object without moving its anchor is needed
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Anchor-and-Text-Wrap
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Reported: 2021-03-22 08:45 UTC by Mike Kaganski
Modified: 2022-12-03 15:49 UTC (History)
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Description Mike Kaganski 2021-03-22 08:45:26 UTC
Whenever you drag an paragraph-character-anchored object (or move it using arrow keys), its anchor moves together with the object. This makes it impossible to fine-tune position of objects on screen, when their anchors are set.

Steps:

1. In a Writer document, add several paragraphs.
2. Insert an image, and anchor it to the first paragraph.
3. Now try to drag the image, with the goal to re-position it below, but not to change its anchor (assuming we want the image to be linked to the first paragraph's text, but be positioned somewhere at the bottom of the page).

=> The anchor moves to the following paragraphs when you drag, so the only way to make the desired change is to enter numbers into the Properties dialog.

Of course, the proposed method (bindable to some keyboard modifier like Ctrl+Alt+Shift) should limit the movement of the object to disallow making the object and the anchor on different pages.
Comment 1 Dieter 2021-04-03 11:14:24 UTC
I confirm the described situation with

Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: f96004096268f5e71120678e32fc8c74055819aa
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

but I think this is an enhancement request rather than a bug.
cc: Design-Team

For me one general problem is, that LO has only very short informations about image anchoring [1] and we have a lot of report about it.

[1] https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-GB/text/swriter/01/05060100.html?System=WIN&DbPAR=WRITER&HID=modules/swriter/ui/frmtypepage/FrameTypePage#bm_id3147406
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2021-04-06 09:42:27 UTC
As commented on bug 141162 moving the object (or the anchor) with an accelerator key like alt being pressed would do the trick. Of course not available if anchoring is set to As Character.

Probably no need for further input from UX.
Comment 3 Telesto 2022-12-03 14:37:09 UTC Comment hidden (off-topic)
Comment 4 Mike Kaganski 2022-12-03 14:47:12 UTC Comment hidden (off-topic)
Comment 5 Telesto 2022-12-03 15:49:54 UTC Comment hidden (off-topic)