Bug 145767 - Wrong window opens when selecting More in language Menu in footer
Summary: Wrong window opens when selecting More in language Menu in footer
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.3.0.3 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Linux (All)
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Blocks: Character-Dialog
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Reported: 2021-11-18 21:53 UTC by hug.charlotte@gmail.com
Modified: 2023-07-26 15:59 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Sample document (155.56 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2021-11-23 07:14 UTC, Rainer Bielefeld Retired
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Character window has language option as well, jut bellow the font, size (26.65 KB, image/png)
2022-06-15 06:28 UTC, H.K.
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Description hug.charlotte@gmail.com 2021-11-18 21:53:58 UTC
Description:
In the footer of Libre Office Writer, when selecting More in the menu of the Language of the document, it is not the adequate window that opens.

Steps to Reproduce:
1.right clic on the language in the footer
2.select More
3.window opens about changing characters

Actual Results:
window opens about changing characters

Expected Results:
the window should be about changing the language of the document


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
this also happens when selecting "define language for paragraph" > More
Comment 1 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2021-11-23 07:14:21 UTC
Created attachment 176441 [details]
Sample document

NOT reproducible with Installation of Version:7.2.1.2 (x64); Build ID: 87b77fad49947c1441b67c559c339af8f3517e22; CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win; Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: de-DE; Calc: threaded  |  my default User Profile
Comment 2 gilles 2022-02-25 09:12:18 UTC
Version: 7.3.0.3 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 30(Build:3)
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); UI: fr-FR
Ubuntu package version: 1:7.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
Calc: threaded

I just upgraded. I meet exactly the same problem.
Comment 3 H.K. 2022-06-15 06:28:05 UTC
Created attachment 180776 [details]
Character window has language option as well, jut bellow the font, size
Comment 4 H.K. 2022-06-15 06:29:25 UTC
While trying to reproduce this issue i noticed the same behavior is happening whenever you are doing the following steps: 

1. Click/ Right Click  on the language label in the footer / status bar section 
2. Click on “Set language for paragraph” from the context menu 
3. Click on “More” 
4. Notice that the “Character”  window is opening up (which has multiple option to customize font, style, size, but also Language) 

In conclusion for both footer section “Language” options (More for Language and also paragraph selection) we are seeing the “Character” window opening, which also has the possibility to select Language further. 
Please see the attached image https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=180776
Comment 5 H.K. 2022-06-15 06:44:13 UTC
(In reply to H.K. from comment #4)
> While trying to reproduce this issue i noticed the same behavior is
> happening whenever you are doing the following steps: 
> 
> 1. Click/ Right Click  on the language label in the footer / status bar
> section 
> 2. Click on “Set language for paragraph” from the context menu 
> 3. Click on “More” 
> 4. Notice that the “Character”  window is opening up (which has multiple
> option to customize font, style, size, but also Language) 
> 
> In conclusion for both footer section “Language” options (More for Language
> and also paragraph selection) we are seeing the “Character” window opening,
> which also has the possibility to select Language further. 
> Please see the attached image
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=180776

While checking earlier versions of the Office Writer, I also noticed that this behavior is the same in previous versions as well and in the latest 7.4.0-beta1 version as well. 
So, this behavior it’s reproducible in the same manner on the other versions as well.
Comment 6 H.K. 2022-06-15 06:58:53 UTC
I also checked other possible ways to update Language preferences and there’s also the possibility to select more languages from the Main Menu with following steps: 
1. Select “Tools” from Main Menu 
2. Then select “Language” from the sub menu
3. Notice there are multiple ways to apply language (for selection, paragraph or all text)
4. Select one of those (eg. “For all text”) 
5. Select “More” for that option 
6. Notice that the Character window is the open opening (same as in the case of language selection from the footer/ status bar) 
	
I am thinking that  this might be the intended behavior, even though the window is named differently and the Language option is less visible in this window and it might create confusion for the end users.
Comment 7 H.K. 2022-06-15 16:00:42 UTC
After checking the documentation on this release and the user manual I noticed that this behaviour is the intended one, as it comes out from the Writer Guide (https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG72/WG7201-IntroducingWriter.html). Please check the following reference: “Text Language - Shows the language and localization used for spelling, hyphenation, and the thesaurus. It is based on the position of the cursor or the selected text. Click to open a menu where you can choose another language/localization for the selected text or for the paragraph where the cursor is located. Choosing More... opens the Character dialog. “

Considering this, I think we can close this ticket as resolved.
Comment 8 H.K. 2022-06-15 16:00:56 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 H.K. 2022-06-23 15:01:14 UTC
After checking the other programs as well from Libre office suite, I noticed that the footer/ status bar section Language >> More option form Calc, or Impress opens a completely different window (called Options - Language Settings - Languages) than the one from Writer, making Writer inconsistent with the rest of the product from the suite and generating confusions like this one among the end user who are user to the other tools. 

Also, I analyzed the other products from the market, such as MS Word or MS PowerPoint and they also have a language specific window only (called Language), similar to the one in Impress or Calc, but consistent across all apps.  

Considering this, I think we should consider this a design issue and try to improve the overall user experience by creating consistency across the Libre Office Suite apps.
Comment 10 BogdanB 2023-07-26 15:59:57 UTC
Based on comment 3, and also 6 and 7, it this works for me?

Also, based on comment 9, is there needed a change to windows on Writer?