Bug 147656 - Presenter console default disable
Summary: Presenter console default disable
Status: RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
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7.3.0.3 release
Hardware: All All
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Reported: 2022-02-25 14:34 UTC by Artem Proskurnev
Modified: 2023-08-13 03:20 UTC (History)
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Description Artem Proskurnev 2022-02-25 14:34:18 UTC
I suggest turning off the presenter console by default for new users. Many hundreds of users to whom I put LO, asked how to disable this setting.
I think it can be done here:
libreoffice/sd/source/ui/inc/optsitem.hxx:199:
bool    bEnablePresenterScreen : 1; => 0

libreoffice/sdext/source/presenter/PresenterScreen.cxx:254:
bool dEnablePresenterScreen=true; => false
Comment 1 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2022-02-25 16:48:05 UTC
Many hundreds? Really?

I never heard such a request and I strongly disagree. I think that the right way to give satisfaction to these "hundreds" of users could be to have two commands to launch the slideshow, one with the presenter console and one without. Or to add an option in the dialog Slideshow Settings.

Best regards. JBF
Comment 2 Roman Kuznetsov 2022-03-03 18:37:28 UTC
Artem, if I understood you in our channel right the problem that have your hundreds users is they all have TWO presenter consoles instead only one: one on first display and the second on a second display, right?
Comment 3 Artem Proskurnev 2022-04-14 10:36:39 UTC
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #2)
> Artem, if I understood you in our channel right the problem that have your
> hundreds users is they all have TWO presenter consoles instead only one: one
> on first display and the second on a second display, right?

No.
The problem is that when duplicating screens, it is not the presentation that is duplicated on two screens, but the presentation console. Users use a computer and a projector.
Comment 4 Artem Proskurnev 2022-04-14 11:35:27 UTC
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #1)
> Many hundreds? Really?
> 
> I never heard such a request and I strongly disagree. I think that the right
> way to give satisfaction to these "hundreds" of users could be to have two
> commands to launch the slideshow, one with the presenter console and one
> without. Or to add an option in the dialog Slideshow Settings.
> 
> Best regards. JBF

Really. Almost every teacher at school has a projector or TV, which they use as a second screen. And all the teachers, regardless of how they set up the screens (continuation of the screen or duplication of the screen), said that they did not need the console and asked to turn it off. This has been more than a hundred jobs for several years.
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2022-04-15 04:01:31 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2023-01-06 08:32:41 UTC
Stephané, please confirm the issue. I don't get the two screen + duplicate presenter console issue.

Artem, are you aware of with tools > options > impress > general > use presenter console?

See https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/simpress/guide/presenter_console.html
Comment 7 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-01-06 09:00:46 UTC
Can't reproduce with two or three monitors, either extending (aka "joining") or duplicating (aka "mirroring") them, on:

Version: 7.6.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: ec2f1d73936c9d8cee83c0887170e9ecb8f044ba
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Nor in:

Version: 7.3.7.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: e114eadc50a9ff8d8c8a0567d6da8f454beeb84f
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Right now, the presenter console is supposed to open by default when there is more than one monitor, and I think that makes perfect sense as a default setting.

However, if you see a duplicated presenter console, that sounds like a bug and you should give us more details about the version and system you can reproduce the issue on so we can investigate:

- Info copied from About dialog, including the OS
- Precise steps to follow
- Test a more recent version (e.g. 7.3.7 or 7.4.3)

Thanks!
Comment 8 Artem Proskurnev 2023-01-10 16:28:53 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Artem, are you aware of with tools > options > impress > general > use
> presenter console?

Yes, of course I am aware of this parameter.
I will check if there is a problem in the new version
Comment 9 QA Administrators 2023-01-11 03:23:35 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 Heiko Tietze 2023-01-11 06:54:02 UTC
(In reply to Artem Proskurnev from comment #8)
> I will check if there is a problem in the new version

Back to NEEDINFO
Comment 11 Heiko Tietze 2023-01-13 09:23:47 UTC
Not reproduced, removing UX
Comment 12 QA Administrators 2023-07-13 03:14:03 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 QA Administrators 2023-08-13 03:20:23 UTC
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