Bug 149041 - Calc SUM button confusing with selected cells
Summary: Calc SUM button confusing with selected cells
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Calc (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: low minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Function-Sum
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Reported: 2022-05-11 17:18 UTC by Luboš Luňák
Modified: 2024-10-17 16:34 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Calc test document (8.50 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2022-05-11 17:18 UTC, Luboš Luňák
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Description Luboš Luňák 2022-05-11 17:18:32 UTC
Created attachment 180066 [details]
Calc test document

The SUM button in the Calc button works in a confusing way if a range of cells is selected.

Steps to reproduce:
- Open the attached document.
- Select cells A4-A6 (or A4-A7).
- Select SUM from the dropdown to the left of Calc's formula lineedit in the toolbar.

The button fills in =SUM(A5:A6) into A7. That's confusing, as A4 is selected as well. When nothing is selected and the cursor is in A7, then the buttons fills in the same, but it also highlights only A5-A6, suggesting that this is a feature. But if cells are selected, there's no such feedback.
Comment 1 Luboš Luňák 2022-05-11 17:20:07 UTC
Eike: I have found no documentation for this feature. The only thing I have found is https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71339#c15 , but that's unclear on what should happen in this specific case. Can you please clarify what Calc should do here?
Comment 2 LeroyG 2022-05-11 18:30:01 UTC
The confusion is that the selected range remains selected while the final formula only get the cells below A4. In the sample file, A4: =SUM(A1:A3)

You can select Ax:A6, being x 1 to 4, and will alwais get =SUM(A5:A6).

Reproducible with:

Version: 7.1.8.1 (x86) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: e1f30c802c3269a1d052614453f260e49458c82c
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.1 Service Pack 1 Build 7601; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: es-MX (es_MX); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Version: 7.3.2.2 (x86) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 49f2b1bff42cfccbd8f788c8dc32c1c309559be0
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.1 Service Pack 1 Build 7601; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: es-MX (es_MX); UI: es-ES
Calc: threaded
Comment 3 Eike Rathke 2022-05-12 10:46:43 UTC
The button (maybe should be called "AutoFunction" instead of "Select Function", Excel still calls it "AutoSum" I think) inserts a function taking a data range up to and excluding the last formula cell within a selection, or if the previous cell is already a formula cell then collecting all formula cells of a contiguous cell range within the selection, acting similar to a SUBTOTAL() function on the overall range. Shortening the cell range passed in this case when a formula cell was encountered is correct behaviour.

As Leroy said, the confusion is mainly because the original selection is kept, if it was adjusted to the resulting A5:A6 it would be clearer in this case.
Comment 4 Eike Rathke 2022-05-12 11:20:18 UTC
User documentation for this is also bad and lacks details
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/scalc/02/06030000.html?DbPAR=CALC
Comment 5 Luboš Luňák 2022-05-12 14:56:03 UTC
Olivier: Can somebody please improve the documentation?
Comment 6 Rafael Lima 2022-05-12 15:02:09 UTC
FYI: In MS Excel the behavior is a bit different than in LO Calc.

In Excel if no range is selected and the cell cursor is positioned in A7, applying "AutoSum" will only select cells A5:A6 and leave the formula open for the user to change it. This is exactly the same LO Calc does.

The difference is when there's a range selected. For instance, in Excel if we select A4:A6 and click AutoSum, it will consider cell A4 in the resulting SUM formula. LO Calc won't consider cell A4 since it has a formula in it.

IMO the way MS Excel behaves is more natural from a user's point of view, since the user explicitly selected a range of cells and clicked the SUM formula in the AutoSum, so this means that he/she wants that cell to be considered.

There's one side note: The behavior I reported for Excel won't work if cell A1 is selected. For example, if you select A1:A6 and apply AutoSum, only cells A5:A6 will be included in the SUM formula. However if you select A2:A6 then the SUM formula will include A2:A6. This looks like an Excel bug to me.
Comment 7 Rafael Lima 2022-05-12 17:19:58 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Timur 2022-05-13 10:51:05 UTC
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #7)
> Maybe a duplicate of bug 144170 ?

May be but I wouldn't consider it. That bug wants a different suggestion of sum range (which I closed as NAB) and this one points to unexpected behavior that need to be resolved.
Comment 9 LeroyG 2024-04-05 00:05:35 UTC
Bug 124643 says: Inherited From OOo.