Bug 151082 - Sidebar shortcut ctrl+alt+4 conflicting with <altgr> usage
Summary: Sidebar shortcut ctrl+alt+4 conflicting with <altgr> usage
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: All Windows (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Shortcuts-AltGR
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Reported: 2022-09-20 12:31 UTC by Edson
Modified: 2022-10-18 20:44 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Edson 2022-09-20 12:31:40 UTC
LibreOffice in general or writer shortcut:
ctrl+alt+4 should add a ~ on letters like a or o, to form ã and õ in Portuguese.  
It opens the sidebar navigator deck, instead. 
Both modify or delete are not available for any of the two. 
It's impossible to write in Portuguese!
How to fix it?
Comment 1 Rafael Lima 2022-09-20 14:00:54 UTC
Please, provide more information on your system / LO version.

Copy and paste the contents from Help - About LibreOffice.

On my PC the sidebar opens/closes with this shortcut. However, I had never heard of the "ctrl+alt+4" shortcut for this purpose on LibreOffice and I use a pt-BR keyboard which has the ~ (tilde) sign on it, so no need for this shortcut.
Comment 2 Edson 2022-09-20 14:41:41 UTC
Thank you so much Rafael Lima for your response.
I am using an HP Pavilion Intel 11th Gen laptop, running Windows 10 Home, 21H2.
Free Office 7.4.1
The default keyboard is assigned for Spanish-Spain, which matches the physical keyboard.
There is no < ~ > key, so the shortcut to write Portuguese ã and õ letters is 
<alt gr + 4> or <cntrl+alt+4>
Either one mixes with the <open sidebar navigator deck> function
In all Spanish keyboards manufactured in Spain, they are configured like this. So, all software uses the same shortcut, even the windows startup password, for example.
The question is how can I disable the shortcut for <open sidebar navigation deck> or delete it, or change it in OpenOffice so as not to coincide with the system?
Thank you, again!
Comment 3 Julien Nabet 2022-09-20 15:48:29 UTC
To disable the shortcut:
- Select menu Tools/Herramientas
- then Customize/Personalizar
- choose Key/Teclado tab
- click at top right the radio button "Libreoffice"
- scroll in shortcuts/Atajos de teclado
until Ctrl+Alt+4 "Abrir grupo Navegador"
- click on button "Eliminar"

(BTW this bugtracker is about LibreOffice not OpenOffice)
Comment 4 Edson 2022-09-20 15:53:11 UTC
Hi, Julien Nabet 
Yep, I tried it many times. It changes nothing. When I get back to the document, the same happens: instead of the letter, I get the navigator sidebar deck... unfortunately.
Comment 5 Julien Nabet 2022-09-20 15:55:56 UTC
You meant you removed the shortcut, restart LO (I'm not sure if it's needed but perhaps it's required) and it still does open the navigator?
Comment 6 V Stuart Foote 2022-09-21 11:36:53 UTC
As implemented for bug 84502, the <ctrl><alt>[1-9] sequences are used. Don't think the <altgr> issue came up then. May need to revisit for localization.

IIRC for shortcuts global and per module, in addition to the global LibreOffice radio button, also clear the module specific shortcut for Writer.

Keyboard shortcuts for Sidebar are blocked in the Customize dialog in the "Sidebar Decks" category at the bottom of the list.
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2022-09-21 11:47:35 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #6)
... rewrite for a little clarity,

The keyboard shortcuts for the Sidebar decks are in a block in the Customize dialog "Sidebar Decks" category, located at the bottom of the list.
Comment 8 Edson 2022-09-21 15:29:11 UTC
Thank you all, for your comments and suggestions! 
I had already did it, and couldn't find the problem. 
At a moment, my keyboard stopped working. 
Then I restarted again (Lik 3 or 4 times) 
and everything was there! 
All solved. Everything is working now. 
So, no more problems but I don't know how it was solved. 
But, all of your suggestions are completely right: 
Thank you all again!