Created attachment 185084 [details] Screenshot showing the Tabbed UI and the sidebar In Impress, a very common task when preparing slides is to Promote/Demote a list level, so that we can add items and sub-items in a list. These commands are accessible only via the sidebar (see attached screenshot). The main problem is that the Tabbed UI has a very similar command named "Increse/Decrease indent", which has a very different result than Promote/Demote list level. This is confusing, because these commands in the Tabbed UI are to the right of the List toggle command, which gives the impression that these commands will promote/demote the list level, but instead they only change the indentation value. I would like to suggest replacing the "Increse/Decrease indent" commands by the "Promote/Demote list level" commands in the Tabbed UI. Also, this would make the Tabbed UI more similar to the Ribbon interface of MS PowerPoint, which provides Promote/Demote commands instead of simply changing the indentation value.
+1, for lists in a textbox we do a layout adjustment rather than an outline adjustment now. So, would replace the Tabbed NB use of .uno:DecrementIndent .uno:IncrementIndent to instead use .uno:OutlineLeft .uno:OutlineRight to match usage in the SB Properties "Lists" panel. But do we still need the layout adjustment (e.g. for graphical bullets)?
The notebookbars are in sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/ notebookbar_single.ui notebookbar_groupedbar_full.ui notebookbar_groupedbar_compact.ui notebookbar.ui (this one is the tabbed version) notebookbar_compact.ui Adding/removing commands does not need Glade but can be done with any XML/text editor.
Proposed patch here: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/146705 Note that I only changed Impress/Draw. I did not make any changes in Writer since all is working as expected there. Apparently in Writer, when editing lists the commands "Increase Indent" and "Promote Outline Level" do the same thing. The item is actually promoted instead of simply changing the indentation value.
Rafael Lima committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/53bcb6c42fcb6f9ca6bf568a965c99d6c2b5ffb5 tdf#153352 Use Promote/Demote in Tabbed UI instead of Increase/Decrease indent It will be available in 7.6.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.