The word in question today is 'briar' (preferred modern spelling in en-US) but was flagged as incorrect by spellchecker, and that it should be spelled 'brier.' In fact, I had to forcibly make Google search for 'brier.' The Oxford Dictionary (also preferred by en-ca) site insists the former spelling is correct. Both should be considered acceptable. In the reference article below, there is even one version of the word that contains a 'y.' Not sure if that should be included as correct, as it is obviously extremely rare. Similar to Bug 142043, but different word. [Same repro, etc] Might fall under the broader category discussed in Bug 149521. As noted in this bug, I have also encountered this 'lexical/dialectical' spelling confusion on many occasions. This one hit me just right, enough so that I braved the 'subcategory' mire to file a bug. That said, I want you all to know I appreciate what you are doing. Thank you very much for making the world a better place by being on the LibreOffice team! Reference Article -- https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/sylvania-telephone/2009/03/05/which-one-correct-briar-brier-or-bryer/14198595007/
Thank you Tina! (and thanks for the kind words!) Confirming that it is not in the en_US dictionary: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/dictionaries/tree/en/en_US.dic It is however included in the en_GB dictionary: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/dictionaries/tree/en/en_GB.dic#n11133 I agree that it should probably be included: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/briar https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/briar Kevin, what are you thoughts? I'm not familiar yet with how the dictionaries are compiled and augmented.
The right place for this report would probably be in the upstream issue tracker for the word list: https://github.com/en-wl/wordlist/issues
Heya, I was checking the British wordlist, and it already has: briar briars briar's briary brier briers brier's If it is missing in the US dictionary, that is a task for Kevin Atkinson: https://github.com/en-wl/wordlist He maintains the US. Anyway, to check if a British (Common Wealth) word is in the latest GB dictionary, click on the wordlist link in the table at the top right of my website: https://proofingtoolgui.org As I write this, the link points to: https://proofingtoolgui.org/wordlist_marcoagpinto_20230301_270569w.txt Thanks!
I submitted this to SCOWL as: - Issue #364 - https://github.com/en-wl/wordlist/issues/364 I recommended: - "briar" as the main spelling. - "brier" as the variant. Thanks for the report, Tina. :) - - - (Turns out, the "-ar" spelling became more popular in the US in 1920!)
Thank you, Tex and Marco! Marking as "moved" to the relevant repository.
Wow! I never imagined I'd stir up so much activity. I'm almost hesitant to file any new words, but I will when I find them. Thanks to everyone for caring so deeply about this. It just goes to show what can be done when the community gets involved! Let me know when/if you need me to verify/validate it. Happy to help, even in such a small way. /tr
> Thank you, Tex and Marco! Marking as "moved" to the relevant repository. Nice. Didn't know "MOVED" was even a thing. I'll definitely keep that in mind in the future. > I'm almost hesitant to file any new words, but I will when I find them. Yes, definitely do it. If you find an issue in: US English - Submit to SCOWL's Github. --- https://github.com/en-wl/wordlist --- http://wordlist.aspell.net/ British (or other) English - Submit to Marco's site. --- https://proofingtoolgui.org/ - - - Marco's mentality is more: - "add every valid word under the sun" Where SCOWL's default mentality is more: - "add the most commonly used words / spellings" then supply larger dictionaries if needed. (Can be found at the aspell link above.) This helps with extremely rare words that are most likely typos: - calendar vs. calender --- ("a thing you keep dates on" vs. "a machine to press cloth"!) If you lean too far in the list-every-word direction, the squigglies won't be as helpful! :) (99%+ of people WILL NOT be talking about the pressing machine!) - - - > Wow! I never imagined I'd stir up so much activity. > > Thanks to everyone for caring so deeply about this. It just goes to show what can be done when the community gets involved! Heh. Words are exciting! :) I explained a bit more details on Spellchecking Dictionaries here: - https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/yq7nnz/adding_wiktionary_as_source_for_spell_check/ivns42r/ - https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/rfwn0q/having_used_libreoffice_for_a_while_i_feel_the/ I stumbled upon SCOWL and these dictionaries years ago while working on something else, and I've been hooked ever since. (Similarly, LanguageTool is an open-source grammarchecker. It's also fun submitting grammar errors there!) - - - > Let me know when/if you need me to verify/validate it. Happy to help, even in such a small way. This was a great start! :) There's always: - New words getting created - OR old words that gain popularity - OR spelling/usage changes over time - OR interesting data to dig up. Like "briar" overtaking "brier" in US English back in the 1920s! Honestly, I've never even SEEN the "-er" spelling before! Although now I'll definitely be on the lookout. :)