Bug 153736 - British English Dictionary contains Americanisms
Summary: British English Dictionary contains Americanisms
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Localization (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: Not Assigned
URL: https://github.com/marcoagpinto/aoo-m...
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Blocks: Dictionaries
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Reported: 2023-02-19 14:33 UTC by vin.an
Modified: 2023-03-05 22:47 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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2023-02-19 17:53 UTC, Marco A.G.Pinto
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Description vin.an 2023-02-19 14:33:41 UTC
Americanisations have crept into British English dictionary. eg
Should be "organisation" NOT "organization", recognise not recognize etc
ISE not IZE, ISA not IZA etc
Comment 1 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2023-02-19 16:39:33 UTC
I am not familiar with dictionary, affairs, buz but at least I cann confirm that I found
cyberorganization/SM
organization/oM
organizational/S
reorganizational
reorganizationist
suborganization/SM

In source code of en_GB.dic 

In dict from 
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/english-dictionaries

I doubt that that can be handled here.
Needs to be discussed with Dict creators and may be with
https://hunspell.github.io/
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2023-02-19 17:16:55 UTC
@reporter:
which dict. do you use?
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2023-02-19 17:21:21 UTC
I left an issue here: 
https://github.com/marcoagpinto/aoo-mozilla-en-dict/issues/55
Comment 4 Marco A.G.Pinto 2023-02-19 17:53:28 UTC
Created attachment 185475 [details]
screenshot of LanguageTool browser add-on

Hello!

See the screenshot.

I have a Premium account in Oxford Dictionaries, and it states there that both -ize and -ise are accepted for most words I check.

Also, LanguageTool suggests using -ize in words, since it states it is the Oxford way of writing them.

So, the best I can do is to add both -ize and -ise (provided Oxford says both are valid) and the user decides which one to use.

From the words you typed above (-ise), you will notice that most appear red flagged, which means they aren't in LanguageTool's dictionary (which, by the way, it uses my dictionary for GB updated every three months).

I tried to look for these words in four on-line dictionaries and only found and added:
86835) reorganisational

This month I am focused on fixing the possessives in plurals and the only new words are the 490 from the improvement of FLAG J, 1 from a user and now 1 from here.

Not much news.

Thanks!
Comment 5 vin.an 2023-02-19 19:07:34 UTC
-ise is most commonly used here in the UK, in everyday English. Yes, please add both options. Greatly appreciated, thanks.
Comment 6 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-03-05 21:58:23 UTC
Marking as new according to comments.
Marco, please feel free to assign yourself to this bug.
Comment 7 Marco A.G.Pinto 2023-03-05 22:23:32 UTC
Ahhhh… sorry… I forgot to say that I added the words, you can find them in the latest GB dictionary.

See the wordlist here:
https://proofingtoolgui.org
https://proofingtoolgui.org/wordlist_marcoagpinto_20230301_270569w.txt

The “cyberorganisation” wasn't added because it doesn't appear in the dictionaries.

I spoke with a person from England who suggests words for the dictionary, and he said that in the UK it is written with a hyphen: “cyber-organisation”.
Comment 8 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-03-05 22:36:39 UTC
Fabulous, thank you Marco for the update! Please go ahead and mark this report as "resolved - fixed".