Bug 161523 - Ability to turn off support for Western languages
Summary: Ability to turn off support for Western languages
Status: UNCONFIRMED
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Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LibreOffice (show other bugs)
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Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Options-Dialog-Language
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Reported: 2024-06-12 09:05 UTC by Eyal Rozenberg
Modified: 2024-06-14 12:42 UTC (History)
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Description Eyal Rozenberg 2024-06-12 09:05:39 UTC
Many people in the world don't speak and don't read nor write Western languages. It would be more convenient for them not to be forced to have multi-language-group UI, e.g. in the font selection dialog, nor to see settings which are only relevant to western languages.

So, similarly to how (full) RTL-CTL and CJK language group support in the UI is optional, so should the case be for Western languages.

Note that LO would still be able to open documents with Western language content, just like LO with full CJK support disabled is able to open documents with Chinese content.
Comment 1 V Stuart Foote 2024-06-12 13:29:11 UTC
-1

Think consensus and more likely to be implemented has been more along lines of UI rework for bug 104318
Comment 2 Eyal Rozenberg 2024-06-12 16:14:54 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> Think consensus and more likely to be implemented has been more along lines
> of UI rework for bug 104318

I'm not sure I quite got this sentence. Did you mean "I think the consensus opinion, and what is more likely to be implemented etc." ?

Anyway, about that other bug - some of the last comments on that bug are something like: "Please explain what this bug is about now", "I don't understand my own comments here from 2018", and a reference to comment 10 which says "We could put CTL and CJK for example into tabs so that Western is the first option" ... so it's in a bit of a dodgy state IMHO.
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2024-06-13 10:01:38 UTC
Thought we prefer a solution without the trinity. Ticket should be somewhere...
Comment 4 Eike Rathke 2024-06-14 11:34:23 UTC
The artificial trinity stems from Microsoft Word (at least) and is also part of ODF for interoperability, see all style:*-asian and style:*-complex and style:script-type attributes in https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/os/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.3-os-part3-schema.html
Comment 5 Eyal Rozenberg 2024-06-14 12:42:28 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> Thought we prefer a solution without the trinity. Ticket should be
> somewhere...

See bug 151215, comment 19 by Mike Kaganski, plus we talked about this among other issues at the beer-garden-like place in Bucharest. Perhaps also elsewhere.


(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #4)
> The artificial trinity stems from Microsoft Word

Referring you to the same comment - internally, MS Office is past that trinity now, at least for specifying fonts. But yes, their UI is still like that.

Anyway - this bug is our _current_ situation of three language groups. When we ditch it - I'm assuming there will be no "turning off" of anything, at least not globally.