Description: Small shapes are hard to drag; constantly hitting the resize handles Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open Draw 2. Insert a square with a size of 0,3 by 0,3 cm (or 0,11 by 0,11 inch) 3. Try to move the shape around by dragging at zoom-level 100% or below Actual Results: Dragging the shape is hard, you always hit the handles Expected Results: I haven't done a comparison with other apps, but this unpractical. Zooming in to 160% or so improves the handling, but the full page isn't visible anymore.. so you can't drag and drop it large distances anymore Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: Version: 25.2.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: c52f139b4f7140033144dde29f70a39ebedb6aa0 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 8.1 X86_64 (6.3 build 9600); UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: nl-NL Calc: CL threaded
Created attachment 196312 [details] Alternative solution Handles at the outside of the object, not on the border itself. Screenshot from Draw.io
Created attachment 197125 [details] Illustration of the bug manifesting: Two small squares, one selected, in Impress In the attached screeshot we see how a small square shape is completely covered by its resize handles, making it impossible to move-by-drag without zooming in.
I would CONFIRM this bug, although I'm not sure what the best solution should be.
Why don't you zoom in? I can easily grab a 0.01 cm large shape at 400% (and construct a use case at different scales).
Move the object with arrow keys: Shift+Key for large move, Key for normal move, Alt+Key for short move. Thus having a handle outside the object as provided by e.g. MS Office or SoftMaker, has a low priority for me.
Proposed workarounds are keyboard use and zoom in. => NAB
Created attachment 197199 [details] Sample
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6) > Proposed workarounds are keyboard use and zoom in. => NAB Zoom isn't a work-around. It limited by the visible canvas. Keyboard is more of an option. But there are two way's of moving objects; with keyboard or mouse, IMHO Or even X/Y coordinates for hardcore users Labeling a solution a work-around means: there is a problem which can be improved (enhancement). You might even say LOW priority, because of the quality of the work-around. Closing the bug as 'NOTABUG' isn't the logical consequence, IMHO
(In reply to Telesto from comment #8) > Closing the bug as 'NOTABUG' isn't the logical consequence, IMHO Feel free to reopen, it's your project too. My NAB verdict is based on the fact that you can construct edge cases that cannot be solved with the usual interaction/presentation methods. If a shape is so small that handles cover it completely you may need to draw the image in a larger scale or zoom in. The alternative of outer handles with some distance to the object has its own drawbacks. And the benefit is quite limited given that a handle is tiny and placed right now on the outer edge. (In reply to Telesto from comment #8) > Zoom isn't a work-around. It limited by the visible canvas. Why not? Whether you draw mm-sized objects on the default page or slightly larger on a huge canvas - zoom will be your friend.