Bug 163366 - Formatting TB, the cell Borders selector are very hard to see (Breeze icons)
Summary: Formatting TB, the cell Borders selector are very hard to see (Breeze icons)
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Calc (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
24.8.1.2 release
Hardware: All Linux (All)
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Icon-Theme-Breeze
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Reported: 2024-10-09 16:38 UTC by Dan Dascalescu
Modified: 2025-11-26 12:20 UTC (History)
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Screenshot of cell borders (28.32 KB, image/png)
2024-10-09 16:38 UTC, Dan Dascalescu
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Cell Borders Icons Screenshot on Windows 10, LO 25.2.0.0.alpha0+ (43.46 KB, image/gif)
2024-10-09 18:10 UTC, ady
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Side by side, Win build on Win11, Colibre vs Breeze icon theme (12.16 KB, image/png)
2025-11-26 12:17 UTC, V Stuart Foote
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Description Dan Dascalescu 2024-10-09 16:38:40 UTC
Created attachment 196988 [details]
Screenshot of cell borders

I'm a well-sighted user, yet I can't easily distinguish where the borders are in the drop-down menu with border options. What I find myself doing is mousing over the area where I remember the desired border is, until I see the tooltip confirming that's the border I've been looking for.

Would it be possible to make this drop-down more accessible, perhaps by adding whitespace around each border sample?

I'm attaching a screenshot taken from KDE Linux. The resolution is 2560 x 1440 if that matters.
Comment 1 ady 2024-10-09 17:58:03 UTC
(In reply to Dan Dascalescu from comment #0)

> perhaps by adding whitespace around each border sample?

Based on the screenshot in attachment 196988 [details], I would suggest potential alternatives, in order to improve the contrast between the intended "border" lines and the rest of the icon:

* Increase the width of the to-be-applied "border"; this would (intentionally) exaggerate the "border" line, making it non-proportional to the rest of the icon – I am saying this as a potential positive effect, but the result might make me change my current opinion.

* Increase the contrast between the "border" lines and the rest of the icon; the current colors in the icons shown in attachment 196988 [details] seem to be some variation of "grayish".


OTOH, the equivalent icons in my MS Windows OS seem to have more contrast, showing less gray areas and more black ("to-be-applied border") vs a clearer gray ("closer to white", if I'm allowed the expression).

Themes ("Automatic", "Light", "Dark",...) or similar/related visual effects are another factor to consider.
Comment 2 ady 2024-10-09 18:10:09 UTC
Created attachment 196990 [details]
Cell Borders Icons Screenshot on Windows 10, LO 25.2.0.0.alpha0+
Comment 3 V Stuart Foote 2024-10-09 18:38:56 UTC
The split button is comprised of a grid of standard sized icons, there is no preview. The icons on the grid are the 24px standard size and match the Tools -> Options -> View "large" icon setting for Toolbar/Sidebar/NB. Selecting Extra Large (32px) toolbar icon theme does not affect the grid.

The Sifr icon themes (Light or Dark) are our "accessible" icons, and offer a better contrast/iconography of the border each icon represents.

If your desktop is operating at 2560 x 1440 (16:9) your os/DE likely can reduce that to a different 16:9 resolution--e.g. 1920 x 1080, everything in the UI will occupy more space.

You can also attempt a proportional scaling factor 1.5, 2.0, 2.5; but that behaves differently depending on os/DE.  I'd try the display resolution first.
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2024-10-10 14:51:47 UTC
@Dan, you've several suggestions to respond to.
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2025-11-25 15:20:12 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Dan Dascalescu 2025-11-26 03:45:49 UTC
@Stuart: I would prefer not to mess with my display settings, which are adequate for all other applications.

May I suggest thickening by one pixel the borders for Left, Right, Left & Right, Top, Bottom, and Top & Bottom?

Alternatively, the 4 gray quadrants in each borders icon could be made lighter to enhance the contrast.
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2025-11-26 12:17:57 UTC
Created attachment 204292 [details]
Side by side, Win build on Win11, Colibre vs Breeze icon theme

Yes so sorry, looked closer and noticed you are on a Linux DE and using the default Breeze icon theme.

So, depends on selected icon theme in use, Breeze icons could use a tweak as suggested to become more visible.