When I add a ruler to a slide in a presentation - I don't want it added to _all_ slides of the presentation. If I wanted that, I would, say, expect to add it to the master slide. However - Impress seems to think that all slides need to have a shared set of rulers. That really frustrates users' typical intentions; and you can't even indicate you want a single-slide ruler, i.e. just the less-common user intent is assumed to be always valid.
Can you imagine users with a different POV? The ruler is a UI control like the slides sidebar or the notes pane - all toggled on/off independently from the document. => NAB
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0) > When I add a ruler to a slide in a presentation - I don't want it added to > _all_ slides of the presentation. If I wanted that, I would, say, expect to > add it to the master slide. However - Impress seems to think that all slides > need to have a shared set of rulers. That really frustrates users' typical > intentions; and you can't even indicate you want a single-slide ruler, i.e. > just the less-common user intent is assumed to be always valid. As you refer to "users' typical intentions", can you give a use case related to this? I mean something that has been done before.
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #2) > As you refer to "users' typical intentions", can you give a use case related > to this? I mean something that has been done before. I alluded to this in my referring to the master slide. So, when a user wants to define or create something that applies to "everything", or "all slides" or all slides of the same kind - they edit the styles, or they open up master slide view etc. Think, for example, of setting the font size or weight of the slide title. When a user takes an action on the current slide without indicating generality - we treat that as direct formatting, localized. This is is how it should be with rulers: The user is having trouble aligning things repeatedly to the same line, so s/he drags and places a ruler and continues working. This is just like life press the [B] button on the formatting toolbar - a localized action. Users would not expect that their local action will affect some global scope.
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #3) > (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #2) > > As you refer to "users' typical intentions", can you give a use case related > > to this? I mean something that has been done before. > > I alluded to this in my referring to the master slide. So, when a user wants > to define or create something that applies to "everything", or "all slides" > or all slides of the same kind - they edit the styles, or they open up > master slide view etc. Think, for example, of setting the font size or > weight of the slide title. When a user takes an action on the current slide > without indicating generality - we treat that as direct formatting, > localized. This is is how it should be with rulers: The user is having > trouble aligning things repeatedly to the same line, so s/he drags and > places a ruler and continues working. This is just like life press the [B] > button on the formatting toolbar - a localized action. Users would not > expect that their local action will affect some global scope. Hmm, Heiko in his comment 1 and myself were thinking that you refer to View - Rulers, but now I'm starting to think you are referring to right-click - Insert Snap Guide (vertical or horizontal). Can you clarify?
Oh, I'm so sorry, I mis-spoke. I meant a "snap guide". The thing you get by pressing the ruler area and dragging. I somehow had the notion that what you're getting from there is a sort of a ruler, but it's the wrong term.
Snap guides per slide/page sounds reasonable. But I can imagine a lot of scenarios where the current implementation is preferred and suggest to keep it.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6) Also: We have two places (at least) to define snap guides: on the individual slide, and on the master slide. Even given the scenarios you mentioned - it still makes more sense to cater to the two kinds of interests in two places, rather than ignore one of them completely. Also, I challenge you to spell a couple of these scenarios out... this sounds to me like "I can imagine a lot of scenarios where people prefer the [B] and [i] buttons to affect all text with the same style."
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #7) > Also, I challenge you to spell a couple of these scenarios out... * place an image at the same position on all slides * distribute content with support of the guide * keep some area empty The ruler is independent from the content. It is not related to a master or any slide. The position will not be stored, remembered in a template, added to the document. The feature is purely visual and temporary. To get guides per slide you should add dedicated control - and remove it when done. => NAB/WF
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8) > (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #7) > > Also, I challenge you to spell a couple of these scenarios out... > * place an image at the same position on all slides > * distribute content with support of the guide > * keep some area empty Are you talking about the rulers or snap guides? Assuming it's snap guides, then... "On all the slides" = You would do that on the master slide. > The [snap guide] is independent from the content. No it isn't. I mean, it can be set independently, but in fact, you set it so as to fit the content, or vice-versa. The > It is not related to a master or any slide. > The position will not be stored, remembered in a template, added > to the document. The feature is purely visual and temporary. But even during that period - it can either be related to a single slide or to all of them.
*** Bug 165273 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #10) > *** Bug 165273 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Heh, looks like we got another request for this after a couple of decades without any :)