Description: Add an UI language selector to the First-Start-Dialog Steps to Reproduce: - Actual Results: There is no opportunity to select an UI language in the First-Start-Dialog Expected Results: There is opportunity to select an UI language in the First-Start-Dialog Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: Version: 25.8.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 043b186d10fca4a613ce62c1e0d04f86ec63799c CPU threads: 16; OS: Windows 10 X86_64 (build 19045); UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win Locale: ru-RU (ru_RU); UI: ru-RU Calc: CL threaded
I'm not sure this would be useful, especially since you only get the UI you downloaded LibreOffice with. Can you try to provide a common scenario in which this would be effectively, commonly, useful?
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #1) > I'm not sure this would be useful, especially since you only get the UI you > downloaded LibreOffice with. Can you try to provide a common scenario in > which this would be effectively, commonly, useful? I installed LO in my Windows and it will have RU UI language by default, but I want to use EN UI in LibreOffice (the same is actually for other languages of course).
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #2) > (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #1) > > I'm not sure this would be useful, especially since you only get the UI you > > downloaded LibreOffice with. Can you try to provide a common scenario in > > which this would be effectively, commonly, useful? > > I installed LO in my Windows and it will have RU UI language by default, but > I want to use EN UI in LibreOffice (the same is actually for other languages > of course). Common use case, but it would not belong in a First Start Welcome. A lot of effort has gone into assuring the os/DE provided locale and language is delivered by default. I.e. detecting ru-RU and presenting the UI in that language/locale. Trivial and logical to then change the LO selection from Tools -> Options -> Languages and Locales on its 'General' tab. Doing more automatically requires a change of locale in os/DE as reported to LibreOffice. Not appropriate to a welcome as it is a very low percentage requirement. -1 and => WF
> I installed LO in my Windows and it will have RU UI language by default, but > I want to use EN UI in LibreOffice Not a scenario that suits users who cannot figure out the customizability without a Welcome dialog. => WF And technically it means to show one dropdown from a more complex tab - or do you want to show all from Languages and Locales > General?
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > And technically it means to show one dropdown from a more complex tab yep, it would be enough
As I noted (among other things) in the design meeting last night - if there's something that most non-English-speaking users are really missing on startup, it is the enablement of full RTL/CTL/CJK support. And that, unlike the UI language, is not something they are even aware of the need to change an option for. See bug 164250 about that. I also said, that I believe we should be very frugal with what's put on the first startup dialog. In fact, I believe we already have too much in there. Three tabs, one of them - Appearance - has 9 different controls! So, even though this suggestion is not without its rationale - the next thing I would do with the first startup dialog is not add this through the Lanauges & Locales > General tab. And if we were to consider an individual control - I would first want to see other controls removed. etc.
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #1) > you only get the UI you downloaded LibreOffice with. This is completely wrong. At least in MSI case (Windows), LibreOffice installer has no language variants; all UI languages are bundled. They are in the list available at the installation time (in advances setup), and pre-selected based not on "what was downloaded", but what was detected on system (UI language, installed input languages).
We discussed the topic in the design meeting. Comment 6 summarizes the result and we decided to not proactively add another tab without user feedback for the dialog but keep the ticket open. (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7) > At least in MSI case (Windows), LibreOffice installer has no language variants... So you are in favor of adding the tab?
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8) > So you are in favor of adding the tab? Not exactly. I think, that if needed, the welcome dialog could in theory contain links to other existing dialogs - like "popular initial tasks" list. Not include the functionality in itself.