Currently, LibreOffice uses two similar menu entries: - “Export as PDF…” - “Export Directly as PDF” In German localization, they appear as: - “Als PDF exportieren…” - “Direkt als PDF exportieren” For many users, this wording is confusing, since the difference is not obvious at first glance. The first option opens a dialog with export settings (pages, compression, PDF/A, password, etc.), while the second immediately exports with default settings. Suggestion: Rename or slightly reword these entries to make their difference clearer, e.g.: EN: - “Export as PDF (with options)…” - “Quick export as PDF” DE: - “PDF mit Optionen exportieren…” - “Schnell-PDF exportieren” This small wording change would improve usability and reduce confusion for casual users. (PS: I used ChatGPT for wording help, and it fully agreed with my view of the situation.)
Maybe a different term/expression could be use, I agree, but now "quick". Consider some people could have 3000 pages documents with images and want to export as a "quick" PDF. Would be not so quick if he needs to wait some minutes to generate a PDF.
A quick look at the Writer Guide 25.2, p. 171: ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ Quick export to PDF Click the Export Directly as PDF icon on the Standard toolbar, or File > Export As > Export Directly as PDF, to export the entire document using the PDF settings you most recently selected in the PDF Options dialog. (...) ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯
(In reply to nutka from comment #2) > Quick export to PDF Default export to PDF ?
(In reply to fpy from comment #3) > (In reply to nutka from comment #2) > > Quick export to PDF > > Default export to PDF ? Its not a default. If you change settings in export to pdf, the direct export will keep the latest changes from export.
(In reply to groby999 from comment #0) > Currently, LibreOffice uses two similar menu entries: > - “Export as PDF…” > - “Export Directly as PDF” > > In German localization, they appear as: > - “Als PDF exportieren…” > - “Direkt als PDF exportieren” > > For many users, this wording is confusing, since the difference is not > obvious at first glance. Would be that also the case for two print commands: "Print" and "Print Directly" (in German UI, respectively, "Drucken..." and "Direkt drucken")? Cf. the "Print File Directly" topic in Help https://help.libreoffice.org/25.8/en-US/text/shared/02/01110000.html
(In reply to BogdanB from comment #4) > ... change settings then they become your new (user) default. (as opposed to factory default)
(In reply to groby999 from comment #0) > - “Export Directly as PDF” > ... > - “Quick export as PDF” I don't see much of an improvement between 'directly' and 'quickly'. We need a short text for the label and it should be consistent with the respective function (Save/Export/Print <Directly> As <Foo>). Something like "Save/Export/Print <without a settings dialog> As <Foo>" is too long. Even shorter labels are requested in bug 167259. An alternative approach would be adding the option to the Save dialog and have only one function, see bug 151541
> The first option opens a dialog with export settings > (pages, compression, PDF/A, password, etc.), while the > second immediately exports with default settings. I think this is how it should be. The ... is a standard indicator for "it will open a window allowing you provide for further information" and is around since at least 1987 (both via the Apple Macintosh interface guidelines and the IBM Common User Access standard). I think we should uphold that convention. (=WF)