Bug 170367 - Bullet and numbering dialog in impress in impress is missing options / feature parity compared to writer
Summary: Bullet and numbering dialog in impress in impress is missing options / featur...
Status: UNCONFIRMED
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Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
25.8.4.2 release
Hardware: All All
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Reported: 2026-01-16 13:43 UTC by Gauthier
Modified: 2026-01-16 15:17 UTC (History)
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Bullets and numbering dialog in writer (149.76 KB, image/png)
2026-01-16 13:46 UTC, Gauthier
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Bullets and numbering dialog in impress (163.76 KB, image/png)
2026-01-16 13:46 UTC, Gauthier
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Example of old list mode (7.67 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2026-01-16 15:17 UTC, Regina Henschel
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Description Gauthier 2026-01-16 13:43:40 UTC
Dialogs are very different between the two apps. For example there is no positioning tab / options in the bullets and numbering dialog in impress so for example one cannot create tab stop or space after the bullet.

I tried both the native fedora and flatpak version of LO.

Version: 25.8.4.2 (X86_64)
Build ID: 580(Build:2)
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 6.18; UI render: default; VCL: kf6 (cairo+wayland)
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 Gauthier 2026-01-16 13:46:22 UTC
Created attachment 205067 [details]
Bullets and numbering dialog in writer
Comment 2 Gauthier 2026-01-16 13:46:38 UTC
Created attachment 205068 [details]
Bullets and numbering dialog in impress
Comment 3 Regina Henschel 2026-01-16 15:16:47 UTC
The ODF standard has two modes for lists. The mode is set by the attribute
20.431 text:list-level-position-and-space-mode
It has the values "label-alignment" and "label-width-and-position", with "label-width-and-position" being the default.

The modes differ in how the label part is described.
The mode "label-alignment" uses the settings in the child element "style:list-level-label-alignment". This child element is only evaluated in this mode.
The mode "label-width-and-position" uses the attributes "text:space-before", "text:min-label-width", "text:min-label-distance".

Impress uses "label-width-and-position", Writer uses "label-alignment". Thus the dialog needs to be different in Writer and Impress.

The mode "label-width-and-position" is the old one, used in OOo1.1. If you open a text document that uses this kind of numbering you will see a different dialog tab "Position" than inserting a newly list. I'll attach such document.

I have not tested, which mode is compatible with lists in other formats (e.g. doc, docx, rtf, uot, ppt, pptx).

Thus here are several problems:
A) The "label-alignment" mode is not implemented in Impress => enhancement. An Implementation would need in addition an option to convert lists with "label-width-and-position" mode to "label-alignment" mode.
B) The user cannot chose in Writer which mode to use => enhancement.
C) The user cannot convert the old "label-width-and-position" mode to the new "label-alignment" mode in Writer => enhancement.

I suggest to keep (A) for this report and turn it to an enhancement request.
Comment 4 Regina Henschel 2026-01-16 15:17:24 UTC
Created attachment 205069 [details]
Example of old list mode