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Bug 33713 - FORMATTING, FILEOPEN: Spacing above and below paragraph (.lwp)
Summary: FORMATTING, FILEOPEN: Spacing above and below paragraph (.lwp)
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
3.3.0 release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
Depends on:
Blocks: LWP
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Reported: 2011-01-30 04:16 UTC by Jaxson Lee
Modified: 2019-10-08 02:28 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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.lwp '97 format document containing examples of paragraph spacing (23.11 KB, application/vnd.lotus-wordpro)
2011-01-30 04:16 UTC, Jaxson Lee
PDF showing Lotus Word Pro '97 and LibreOffice Writer 3.3 handling of sample document (222.66 KB, application/pdf)
2011-01-30 04:17 UTC, Jaxson Lee

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Description Jaxson Lee 2011-01-30 04:16:37 UTC
Created attachment 42715 [details]
.lwp '97 format document containing examples of paragraph spacing

Currently, the Lotus Word Pro import filter doesn't handle Paragraph Spacing. This would be equivalent to the information contained in <style:paragraph-properties fo:margin-top="x" fo:margin-bottom="y"/> in the .odt format.

Word Pro allows these to be set in terms of # of lines (1/2 line, 1 whole line, multiple lines) as well as custom spacings (measured in cm/points/picas). I'm not sure how these are stored internally in the .lwp format.

I've attached a sample document containing a range of different paragraph spacings, and a .pdf which provides a comparison between LWP '97 and LibO 3.3 handling of this sample document at the moment.
Comment 1 Jaxson Lee 2011-01-30 04:17:34 UTC
Created attachment 42716 [details]
PDF showing  Lotus Word Pro '97 and LibreOffice Writer 3.3 handling of sample document
Comment 2 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 11:49:34 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 3 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:02:05 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:03:06 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 5 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:07:40 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:09:46 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 sasha.libreoffice 2012-08-24 05:48:45 UTC
Nobody tested yet. Changing to Unconfirmed
Comment 8 Jaxson Lee 2012-08-27 12:22:08 UTC
Paragraph spacing still doesn't happen in Writer 3.6
Comment 9 Owen Genat (retired) 2014-07-26 10:32:45 UTC
Not sure why this bug is set as an enhancement when related bug 33787 and bug 33838 are not. Severity set to normal. Import of the content in the provided example has regressed since the originally reported v3.3. All versions I have tested (,,,, and now only import unformatted text.
Comment 10 QA Administrators 2015-09-04 02:48:15 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 Buovjaga 2015-11-18 11:59:42 UTC
Yeah, unformatted text imported.

Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version:
Build ID: b216cc1b8096eb60c27f67e8c27b7cd756c75e38
TinderBox: Win-x86@62-merge-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-11-12_00:06:20
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)
Comment 12 roderich_mattmueller 2016-10-04 16:03:19 UTC
Compared to an older version of the OpenOffice Writer, there is a new function in the format paragraph dialogue (Format / Absatz). This is the option "No spaces between paragraphs using the same format pattern" or so - I do not know the English expression while working with the German version.

Perhaps this is a function that I proposed to the OpenOffice Project some years ago. In this case my proposition is misunderstood; the actual option has no real or senseful application. This is the bug.

My proposition was different:
The space above a heading paragraph is always correct after a text block. Like this:

The following advantages of ...


A list of bugs ...
But in the case of two heading paragraphs of different hierarchy, following directly one to the other, the space makes no sense and the layout looks badly. Like this:


What I want to tell ...
This is no good formatting. But by suppressing the linespace above(!) a heading paragraph that is preceeded by annother heading paragraph of higher hierarchy we get something like this:


What I want to tell ...
This means that in the case of lacking text belonging directly to the heading of the higher rank, You only get the space that is defined to come below(!) the first (higher) heading and not the space that normally is set above the second heading. This should render a better layout and this should be the sense of this option.
Comment 13 QA Administrators 2018-09-25 02:51:06 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 14 Christian Pietzsch 2018-10-07 14:59:34 UTC
Paragraphing still doesn"t work in:

Build ID: 6.1.0-2
CPU threads: 12; OS: Linux 4.18; UI render: default; VCL: gtk2; 
Locale: de-DE (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded
Comment 15 QA Administrators 2019-10-08 02:28:21 UTC
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